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Topic History of: RKelly - Bundling arrives in America
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Silent Minority robbiex wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
There you go again Robbie; Presumption of Innocence means allegations without proof are False.

I totally agree that there is too much hype and presumed guilt amongst the media on this subject, because that is where the story is and some people were probably convicted too easily and without enough evidence. However if an allegation has not been proven either way, then it is an unproven allegation rather than a false allegation. I could say that I went on America 40 years ago, could I prove it, probably not because there would be no records on computers on cctv, however this doesn't mean that it is false.


Guilt under law should require evidence...and under current circumstances it does not...only coming down to who is the best performer...

...I'm sure Doctor King is simply pointing out the obvious...that a justice system that requires no real evidence is not a good idea...the guilty will walk free the innocent like JK will have their best years stolen because our law enforcement and justice system are broken...

...as the Venerable Doctor has told us many times we make no assumptions, but we do ask questions,and ask for proof ...innocent until proven...

Not sure about this Kelly chap,being rich certainly helps more stateside.
honey!oh sugar sugar. True delusions or mistakes are not false allegations, so I assume everyone is innocent until the verdict. (occasionally after)
JK2006 But if someone accuses you of killing someone in America 40 years ago, that must be considered false unless they can produce evidence that it is true and prove it in court Robbie. Gossip and rumour should not be considered true automatically.
robbiex JK2006 wrote:
There you go again Robbie; Presumption of Innocence means allegations without proof are False.

I totally agree that there is too much hype and presumed guilt amongst the media on this subject, because that is where the story is and some people were probably convicted too easily and without enough evidence. However if an allegation has not been proven either way, then it is an unproven allegation rather than a false allegation. I could say that I went on America 40 years ago, could I prove it, probably not because there would be no records on computers on cctv, however this doesn't mean that it is false.
JK2006 There you go again Robbie; Presumption of Innocence means allegations without proof are False. I've not seen that video; know nothing about birth certificates or passports; have no information about the last case except he was acquitted. And, in my experience, accusers are nearly always exaggerating, often making totally fictitious claims, sometimes genuinely deluded but frequently, if wealth or celebrity is involved, after cash compensation.