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Topic History of: More on the Tory false allegations Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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MCR
Well said
Randall
Honey wrote: Barney wrote: Honey wrote: Yes.
A simply perverse logic and view.
Which, thankfully, isn't supported by UK case law.
So many successful civil cases (when necessary) have been won by victims of rape and abuse.
Leading to financial and many other penalties - even divorce, bankruptcy and outing as violent thugs.
Some were thrown out of regiments, churches and Westminster- disowned and disenfranchised - for being nothing less than animals...
In my opinion civil cases after a trial are an outrageous abuse of justice.
A verdict decided after months of careful argument by experts and an impartial jury is "overturned" by a few clueless knobs sitting round a table for an afternoon, and people think this is ok????
It's like kids asking mum if they can get an ice cream. She says no, so they ask dad and he says yeah ok. One of the oldest tricks in the book. Sneaky, deceitful, irresponsible and childish.
Barney
Your description of the civil trial process is meaningless - and inaccurate in every respect.
The British legal system allows such cases for a variety of reasons - where the original prosecution case was unsuccessful.
Often because a legal nicety has swayed the verdict, or an irrelevant factor. Civil actions though are dangerous, and expensive.
Honey
Barney wrote: Honey wrote: Yes.
A simply perverse logic and view.
Which, thankfully, isn't supported by UK case law.
So many successful civil cases (when necessary) have been won by victims of rape and abuse.
Leading to financial and many other penalties - even divorce, bankruptcy and outing as violent thugs.
Some were thrown out of regiments, churches and Westminster- disowned and disenfranchised - for being nothing less than animals...
In my opinion civil cases after a trial are an outrageous abuse of justice.
A verdict decided after months of careful argument by experts and an impartial jury is "overturned" by a few clueless knobs sitting round a table for an afternoon, and people think this is ok????
hedda
Honey wrote: Jo wrote: I haven't followed this story but for one Tory MP to be accused only for another Tory MP to be accused seems suspicious, rather like Jimmy Savile being accused and then other entertainers being accused, or one football coach being accused, then other football coaches being accused. It suggests to me that subsequent accusers may have been inspired by the first case to make a false allegation against someone in the same profession, thinking that it's a good bet because of the first case, rather than be recalling actual crime.
If they stopped compensation it would stop a lot of the false claims.
How can money ever compensate for being raped anyway?
Yes, pay for counselling and other health needs, but cash in the hand? It has to stop.
they did in Germany and offered free therapy..sex attack claims dropped by over 30% and have remained steady.
In France only about 25% of sex accusations make it to court. I put that down to investigating magistrates who have no fear of ripping police evidence to pieces.
We are supposed to have the best legal system on the planet and much of the time it is excellent.
But the flaws have been exposed and it only takes one ambitious c*nt to upset the apple cart and innocents suffer.
Won't mention any names. (although Keir & Starmer come to mind as well as Saunders & Allison )
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