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Topic History of: Oprah, Meghan and Harry
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Honey Jo wrote:
Good points, Honey. It is odd that a husband (esp. one who seems empathetic to others, unless his involvement in the Invictus games, his Sentebale charity for children in Lesotho, etc. is all a big act) whose pregnant wife told him that she was feeling suicidal (that's what she said in the interview, according to the transcript) would do nothing to get her medical help (assuming that she was incapable of calling a doctor, getting an aide to call one, etc. herself). Especially as other royals, including himself, are reported to have had mental health treatment (source). Unless she had not told him she was feeling that way and/or he knew that she was just feeling generally unhappy.

Reading the transcript I think I might have worked out why she went to a senior palace official and human resources: not because of mental health but because she wanted them to counteract the bad press she was getting and that was getting her down. That makes much more sense to me. Perhaps mental distress had been given as the reason for her request that they act on the bad press and when they said they couldn't do that she had interpreted it to mean that they weren't going to help her manage her mental health. Result: royal family/palace accused of indifference to mental distress.


I think you have cracked it, Jo.

Going to the officials and saying "these false stories are making me want to kill myself so you have to stop them" is not quite the same as "I am suicidal please get me help".
Jo Good points, Honey. It is odd that a husband (esp. one who seems empathetic to others, unless his involvement in the Invictus games, his Sentebale charity for children in Lesotho, etc. is all a big act) whose pregnant wife told him that she was feeling suicidal (that's what she said in the interview, according to the transcript) would do nothing to get her medical help (assuming that she was incapable of calling a doctor, getting an aide to call one, etc. herself). Especially as other royals, including himself, are reported to have had mental health treatment (source). Unless she had not told him she was feeling that way and/or he knew that she was just feeling generally unhappy.

Reading the transcript I think I might have worked out why she went to a senior palace official and human resources: not because of mental health but because she wanted them to counteract the bad press she was getting and that was getting her down. That makes much more sense to me. Perhaps mental distress had been given as the reason for her request that they act on the bad press and when they said they couldn't do that she had interpreted it to mean that they weren't going to help her manage her mental health. Result: royal family/palace accused of indifference to mental distress.
Honey Jo wrote:
Well said, Rick. I wonder if the fact that Meghan had apparently gone to HR (bizarre, why not call a GP/psychiatrist, get an aide to call one, tell Harry - if she didn't want to be explicit - "I'm not feeling well, I think I need to see a doctor", hard to believe that would have been impossible or met with resistance, especially as she was pregnant) points to her feeling less suicidal than fed up with her new lifestyle.

She could have spoken to her midwife, as they are trained to help (with domestic abuse too)

Or she could have spoken to her mother the social worker, her sister the counsellor, or her friends.

However, when someone is feeling that unwell, they sometimes act illogically.

I have absolutely no idea why Harry didn't get her help though.
The only reasons I can think of are quite sinister.
Jo Well said, Rick. I wonder if the fact that Meghan had apparently gone to HR (bizarre, why not call a GP/psychiatrist, get an aide to call one, tell Harry - if she didn't want to be explicit - "I'm not feeling well, I think I need to see a doctor", hard to believe that would have been impossible or met with resistance, especially as she was pregnant) points to her feeling less suicidal than fed up with her new lifestyle.
Rick This absurd over-generalisation about 'mental health' these days doesn't just trivialise real mental illness (as opposed to people who are just a bit 'glum') but it also allows scoundrels like these two parasites to use it like some kind of moral teflon. It doesn't seem to matter how self-obsessed and cynical and shallow one is, as soom as one mentions 'mental health' everyone bows down and begs forgiveness.

It also infantalises our society and culture so that the belief now seems to be that unless you're living in a state of bliss you must be 'mental unhealthy'. Depression can be objective - if you're broke and out of work, that's objective depression, it can't be 'cured' by rearranging furniture or exercises or any other snake oil solutions; same goes for being depressed about losing a loved one - that's not 'mentally unhealthy' it's part of being a sentient adult.