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Topic History of: Sabina Nessa
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Wyot Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:


Wyot, consider yourself soundly kissed!



My work here is done....sigh.....
Honey Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
This crime has become much more common recently. Possibly fuelled by an increasingly misogynistic culture.

It seems that the media were only interested once they found out she was killed by a stranger, and not her partner, as is usual.


Looks more complicated now doesn't it with police interested in two asian men and her being asian. We don't know yet but could easily be an "honour killing". Yes increasingly misogynistic society - but certain cultures within it - only we aren't allowed to say this; or point out that gang culture in London is largely driven by one ethnic group. Or that Islamic terrorists are driven by religious goals as much as anything else, and their deeds are sanctioned by their religious book; just as the bible champions genocide & slavery and stokes hatred as well as love. Also that men can't be women biologically. Or that men accused of sex crimes may be innocent and not automatically part of a sexually oppressive conspiracy.

We can believe that we should be able to say this while also: welcoming asian and afro carib immigration but expecting them to obey our laws without being racists, allow people to worship whichever relgion they wish but obey the law and not harm people, wish men who wish to identify love and live as "women" all the best while not going along with a biological fiction that can see women oppressed by having men in their changing rooms or prison cells, believe at the same time that rape is appalling but a man accused of it is not guilty of it just because of the existence of an accusation.

It is much easier to signal "goodness" than it is to admit complication and uphold that with freedom comes personal responsibility.

But I digress - yes we don't know what this was about yet but notice the difference to Sarah Everard - where are the street demos sisters? The outrage? What is the difference, I wonder...?


Wyot, consider yourself soundly kissed!
Green Man The media are scared to say anything negative about some religions for some reason. :
Wyot Honey wrote:
This crime has become much more common recently. Possibly fuelled by an increasingly misogynistic culture.

It seems that the media were only interested once they found out she was killed by a stranger, and not her partner, as is usual.


Looks more complicated now doesn't it with police interested in two asian men and her being asian. We don't know yet but could easily be an "honour killing". Yes increasingly misogynistic society - but certain cultures within it - only we aren't allowed to say this; or point out that gang culture in London is largely driven by one ethnic group. Or that Islamic terrorists are driven by religious goals as much as anything else, and their deeds are sanctioned by their religious book; just as the bible champions genocide & slavery and stokes hatred as well as love. Also that men can't be women biologically. Or that men accused of sex crimes may be innocent and not automatically part of a sexually oppressive conspiracy.

We can believe that we should be able to say this while also: welcoming asian and afro carib immigration but expecting them to obey our laws without being racists, allow people to worship whichever relgion they wish but obey the law and not harm people, wish men who wish to identify love and live as "women" all the best while not going along with a biological fiction that can see women oppressed by having men in their changing rooms or prison cells, believe at the same time that rape is appalling but a man accused of it is not guilty of it just because of the existence of an accusation.

It is much easier to signal "goodness" than it is to admit complication and uphold that with freedom comes personal responsibility.

But I digress - yes we don't know what this was about yet but notice the difference to Sarah Everard - where are the street demos sisters? The outrage? What is the difference, I wonder...?
Honey This crime has become much more common recently. Possibly fuelled by an increasingly misogynistic culture.

It seems that the media were only interested once they found out she was killed by a stranger, and not her partner, as is usual.