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Green Man
Wyot wrote: As you know we don't agree on this one GM.
When I watch this all I hear is Macron saying that seeing the world in binary terms - US or China - for or against- is a mistake. He says this is two orders and we need one order.
Why do they make so much of the word "order" he uses in the video? He seems to just be saying that the world would be better off if we united rather than carried on with division.
If that is what "New World Order" means, then bring it on I say. Closer trade and Co operation has for centuries kept war at bay. Not always successfully, obviously, but in large measure.
I understand that people see European or Global governance as a threat to localised democracies, and they are. But this presupposes this is necessarily a bad thing.
Give it a couple of more years' time the Western world will be more submissive to China. We need their good, labour and trade. We will need components for electric cars and AI. Solar panels and wind turbines are manufactured from China.
Wyot
As you know we don't agree on this one GM.
When I watch this all I hear is Macron saying that seeing the world in binary terms - US or China - for or against- is a mistake. He says this is two orders and we need one order.
Why do they make so much of the word "order" he uses in the video? He seems to just be saying that the world would be better off if we united rather than carried on with division.
If that is what "New World Order" means, then bring it on I say. Closer trade and Co operation has for centuries kept war at bay. Not always successfully, obviously, but in large measure.
I understand that people see European or Global governance as a threat to localised democracies, and they are. But this presupposes this is necessarily a bad thing.