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Topic History of: Ukraine - into October
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Wyot	Green Man wrote: Wyot wrote: We have to give Putin a way to save face. Otherwise, nuclear weapons will be used in Europe if his own people don't prevent him. You think that will be a bad thing, the world is fucked anyway. Maybe we should put it out of its misery. Then there will be a huge Great Reset and Build Back Better plan which has been on the table for the last few years. There will be sweet f-all to rebuild GM...The few unlucky survivors will eek out a few years killing one another for food (and to eat one another) before dying, untreated in agony, of cancer...If you hear the nukes are coming - drive up as quick as you can towards London, stop off at the Surrey-London border; I'll take you in for 300 seconds mate...
Green Man	Wyot wrote: We have to give Putin a way to save face. Otherwise, nuclear weapons will be used in Europe if his own people don't prevent him. You think that will be a bad thing, the world is fucked anyway. Maybe we should put it out of its misery. Then there will be a huge Great Reset and Build Back Better plan which has been on the table for the last few years.
Gester	A trerritorial solution will be the end game, yes. With face-saving, compromises and winners' rhetoric - although there'll be no victor. Just a land exchange. NATO members can include a new member state, if they wish. Membership of NATO for Ukraine would simply formalise the assistance already being afforded.
SPbarney17	Gester wrote: JK2006 wrote: Ukraine must surely be happy to see some damaged areas allowed to be Russian responsibility. National pride won't allow for specific areas to be moved; nor will Ukraine's citizens or leaders. Significant today is the country's fast track application to become members of NATO. Expanding the players. Application is one thing, NATO rules of entry are another. Ukraine is upping the ante,to match recent Russian political developments. Jonathan King is correct about a territorial compromise as the most acceptable peace deal.
Wyot	We have to give Putin a way to save face. Otherwise, nuclear weapons will be used in Europe if his own people don't prevent him.