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Topic History of: The General Election campaign Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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Wyot
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
What Brexit Wyot, the one on paper?
No the one that took us out of the European Union GM.
Supporters of it, instead of moaning that somehow it wasn't "done right", should question their initial beliefs about what doing such a thing could and would result in for the country.
Wyot
Sally Nice wrote: For political gain?
No political party - including the Tories/government - got the reaction/handling of Covid right. With the benefit of hindsight.
Nor did the medical profession. Largely because the virus was totally new - and hadn't been encountered on earth before.
Not my point Barney. The virus was not my point.
My point was that Starmer argued for harder and longer lockdowns (rightly or wrongly) while at the same time castigating the Government for the harm caused by said lockdowns.
Let's put it another way to help you.
Two gods sit in the heavens. God 1 (the Gov) says "the land is too dry let's send a lot of rain!". God 2 (Starmer) says "yes of course and what took you so long and you should send even more rain and aren't you awful for causing all these floods!"
Get it?
Michael Walker
Starmer seems very at ease with persistant lying on all subjects. It must be the lawyer in him that allows him to behave like this. But it won't work as PM and will be his undoing. If he really believes the latest lie he told to Chris Hope on the battlebus then he may need therapy because that was not a normal rational response to the audience reaction.
Sally Nice
For political gain?
No political party - including the Tories/government - got the reaction/handling of Covid right. With the benefit of hindsight.
Nor did the medical profession. Largely because the virus was totally new - and hadn't been encountered on earth before.
Green Man
Wyot wrote: Starmer nakedly holds the electorate in contempt. He pushed for more and harder lockdowns while castigating the Government for the inevitable economic and human ruin that resulted. For political gain.
However, so did Johnson, Farage and others during the Brexit debate when they repeatedly lied to the electorate. As a result, there was nothing "legitimate" about Brexit; and the young (under 60) who inherited this situation have a right to an honest debate and second plebiscite.
What Brexit Wyot, the one on paper?
I don't remember hearing/seeing Farage pushing for a stronger lockdown but I would love to see full video evidence not edited snippets.
I am amazed that no one has questioned Starmer about the lockdowns apart from the the landlord from The Raven.
I am surprised The Guardian put up the video of Starmer and goons being bully boy thugs in a pub.
I guess The Guardian have no faith in Starmer. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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