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Topic History of: A former cop mocks the UK police
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Green Man |
Oh, there is Hedda. The government, the establishment media choose what to report, cover up or expose.
Operation Mockingbird comes to mind again. |
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hedda |
I'm actually amazed there is isn't far more crime in the UK.
Poverty doesn't come cheap. |
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Green Man |
Meanwhile the little old man who had his bike snatched while he was in the same store for a few moments, his only mode of transport to give him independence, received absolutely no police attention or interest in his genuine crime and upset.
If you want the police to investigate theft, tell them the thieves called you a "faggot".
I have 2 crime numbers from the police over theft at my property and 2 NFA. |
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Wyot |
Rich wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
In short what I said was that the government sets the culture the police work under but they do not micro manage individual police responses. Individual forces and officers within those organisations are responsible for their own actions and choices of what they follow up on.
Nominally I would agree Rich.
But as in any organisation priorities are set by the top generally for the benefit of their careers. Police are accountable for meeting Government set targets, which drive their priorities, and in turn the middle ranking cops all the way to the beat cop making the decision on the ground.
Or flip it around: if the Government wanted proactive Police on the streets preventing real crime and anti-social behaviour and were prepared to pay for this, do you not think this is precisely what we would have?
So yes of course the Government does not micro-manage individual officer's decisions but I think you underestimate the constrictive - and prescriptive - powers on those cops; and in reality they have far less autonomy than you imagine.
Indeed, cultural pressures and norms within an organisation can result in more consistently directed outcomes than error-prone micro-management.
The central problem I think we agree on. Politicians, top cops, middle rankers focused on their careers rather than Policing. And the very idea of what the role of the Police should be has been lost.
The Police like so many other of our public institutions need de-politicising.
There is no chance of a Starmer administration doing this and the Tories took the same approach, as you note. |
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Rich |
Wyot wrote:
The Police don't set their own priorities the Government does.
This is like blaming the ventriloquists's dummy for swearing...
I answered this comment last night but my post does not seem to have appeared today for some reason.
In short what I said was that the government sets the culture the police work under but they do not micro manage individual police responses. Individual forces and officers within those organisations are responsible for their own actions and choices of what they follow up on. This police culture has been formed under 14 years of Tory governance, which is quite shocking. It's the kind of thing you would imagine more under the type of Labour we have now if they'd been in power since 2010.
Why did successive Tory Home Secretaries allow this policing culture to develop? |
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