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Topic History of: Apple pulls data protection tool for UK users
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Rich The trouble with this Starmer Government is that it's trying to tell global businesses like Apple what to do not just here in the UK but with implications elsewhere well beyond the juristiction of the UK government.

While Starmer wants all our private data we can't know much of his own private shenanigans which are still being covered up. More hypocrisy.
Wyot Rich wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Why can't the tech companies and Government agree that the tech companies will randomly search data and if anything illegal is found inform the authorities?

Anyone using the tech will be made aware and can choose whether to use it on these terms. Users can enjoy privacy from Government surveillance, offenders will be punished and never rest easy. Children will be afforded some protection.

Balance.

But yes I agree Starmer is troubling; he has deep roots in communism.



That in itself should disqualify anyone from being PM. It shows in the decisions he is making.

The trouble for Apple is that even they say they can't see end-to-end encrypted data, although why do I not feel confident in that assertion. I'd treat anything I place as able to be viewed somewhere.


I don't agree that communist sympathies should bar Starmer from being PM, just as Trump's fascist leanings should not bar him from the Presidency.

If that is what the people want under the current system. But democracy doesn't work at all now because people are too ignorant and suggestible.

I am sure, like you suggest, Apple could come up with a technical solution to checking contents internally, but otherwise securing them. And that Goverments would pursue this were it not for their innate desire for data.
Rich Wyot wrote:
Why can't the tech companies and Government agree that the tech companies will randomly search data and if anything illegal is found inform the authorities?

Anyone using the tech will be made aware and can choose whether to use it on these terms. Users can enjoy privacy from Government surveillance, offenders will be punished and never rest easy. Children will be afforded some protection.

Balance.

But yes I agree Starmer is troubling; he has deep roots in communism.



That in itself should disqualify anyone from being PM. It shows in the decisions he is making.

The trouble for Apple is that even they say they can't see end-to-end encrypted data, although why do I not feel confident in that assertion. I'd treat anything I place as able to be viewed somewhere.
Wyot Why can't the tech companies and Government agree that the tech companies will randomly search data and if anything illegal is found inform the authorities?

Anyone using the tech will be made aware and can choose whether to use it on these terms. Users can enjoy privacy from Government surveillance, offenders will be punished and never rest easy. Children will be afforded some protection.

Balance.

But yes I agree Starmer is troubling; he has deep roots in communism.
Rich A very good point Jo. Surely our national security, as well as our own personal security, is not being undermined almost fatally by the need to catch a few child abusers, vile as they are. I suspect the truth is that it's a convenient hook to hang this government's rapacious desire for information on because who could possibly argue about the need to stop such people sharing such material. But you can't undermine everyone else and national security in the meantime in doing so.

At the heart of Starmer there is something deeply troubling. Just who is he? On the one hand he is keen to be at the forefront against Putin's Russian dictatorship with all that entails, whilst on the other hand he is presiding over attacks on civil liberties at home in a free western democracy with actions that demonstate quite clearly autocratic tendencies against the population which are very un-British and should not be accepted.