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Topic History of: Is the Archbishop mad ?
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Anthony I'm a bit late on this thread admittedly, but I've found the words to express my opinion through the magnificent Pat Condell, linked below.

I'd urge everyone to watch all his videos. He gives the treatment to the followers of those nasty organized religions Christianity, and its even more vicious younger brother Islam (my words, not Pat's) that they deserve.

zooloo The Cat wrote:
I'd guess that group A are the scientists who promote the theory of the atom exploding and creating the universe, although they have no real explanation of where the atom came from or why. A scientist on a TV debate a few years ago claimed that it was easier for him to believe that there was nothing existing before the Big Bang than for him to believe in some greater intelligence.

I think the only certainty is that there are things beyond man's understanding. I'd love to know where space ends, or if it ends, or what's beyond it if it does end, but I doubt I'll ever find out.


Saying something is easier to believe doesn't mean that person is asserting it as fact, which is what this supposed Group A is doing.

Group A is unlikely to be significantly populated by scientists - their answer would be "I don't know".

Adding a conscious being before the beginning of the Universe simply puts "I don't know" one step back as "Where did the conscious being come from?" is the obvious next question.

Occam's razor would apply here as the conscious being cannot be verified and the Universe operates the same with or without the conscious being, eg petitioning the being has no effect, the being can be discarded as superfluous.

Back to our muttons... Group A is not the proponents of Big Bang Theory.
The Cat I'd guess that group A are the scientists who promote the theory of the atom exploding and creating the universe, although they have no real explanation of where the atom came from or why. A scientist on a TV debate a few years ago claimed that it was easier for him to believe that there was nothing existing before the Big Bang than for him to believe in some greater intelligence.

I think the only certainty is that there are things beyond man's understanding. I'd love to know where space ends, or if it ends, or what's beyond it if it does end, but I doubt I'll ever find out.
zooloo JC wrote:
I didn't invent either. They both existed long before me, and will probably exist long after me.
Where/who is Group A?
JC I didn't invent either. They both existed long before me, and will probably exist long after me.