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Topic History of: 12 Year Criminal Record for totally innocents under Nazi Labour
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BR |
This is none other than a Police State acting to imprison us all as criminals.
If someone is found to be not guilty then they are not a criminal and their DNA should be destroyed immediately that they found innocent. Surely that is the only sensible way to solve this debate.
If we start to play predicting who is a criminal then we go down the road to a Minority Report style of state where people are arrested because they "might" do something.
As "Thought Crime" becomes arrestable under this government or going shopping ( if you are Islamic ) then it will get worse and worse.
The UK Government is acting illegally under European law. The courts have decided already this is ILLEGAL. I am law abiding therefore as far as I can see anyone suggesting anything other than total destruction of all innocent people's DNA is a criminal in the eyes of the European Court.
It is time for Jacqui Smith to be arrested for her wrongdoings. She breaks the law whenever it suits her and she pushes the expenses idea to its very limit and possibly commits fraud in the way she has claimed two house allowances. |
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Emma Bee |
What idiots on BBC Question Time! One man in the audience suggesting everyone should have their DNA taken at birth and stored for life. "If you've done nothng wrong you have nothing to worry about." Good on David Dimbleby for raising the possibility that such a system may be open to abuse. All the MPS agreed that it was right to keep DNA of innocent people on file for a given period. One sensible man in the audience reminded them that they were talking about innocent people, a point which was basically ignored.
How do the government know that 4.5 million crimes will be solved by retaining the DNA of innocent people? "Government estimation," said the Labour rep.
There seemed to be more support among the audience for the details of innocent people to be destroyed within 10 minutes of their name being cleared. |
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veritas |
Certainly in sexual assault cases it has now become a case of proving your innocence from the word go and not the usual.
Brought home to me only 2 days ago as I faced the local magistrates court on a charge of making an illegal turn in my car. He dismissed the case because of my superb driving record..(such an advantage having driving licences in 2 countries -a spotty UK record doesn't show up!) Not too sure what I gained..saving a £100 fine cost me £300 in legal fees.
On emerging from the court I was faced with a dozen photographers who began snapping away..my lawyer though I was a celebrity until I assured her they were just practising-which they were.
A priest was in the next court accused of assaulting 2 boys 15-20 years, the 5th from an expensive private school. Another 5 or 6 have faced similar charges from a country Catholic school.
The police have acted in the most appalling manner , taking out newspaper adverts and appearing on TV requesting "victims" to come forward. It began over a year ago and as adverts continued-offering help and assistance and no doubt mentions of compo (along with the media sensationalised stories)..40-50 year old men are gradually "remembering" what happened when they were 14 or 15.
I've yet to hear the police say "alleged victims" and several times heard them say perpetuators before correcting themselves and saying "alleged perpetuators"
It's 2 shocking cases of "trawling", which has been completely discredited in the UK. |
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veritas |
I actually did this to a journalist I knew who was really getting on my wick with his inscessant banging on about 'perves' and predatory behaviour (in a non too disimilar case to JK)-mainly over a gay lawyer who was subsequently found innocent-sued newsapers and TV stations in a libel case that lasted 5 years, won $6M in damages whilst all his teeth fell out and then died of cancer within 18 months.
This gutter rag writer persisting after the unfortunate man's death to impugn his reputation and imply the usual "no smoke without fire" rubbish.
I researched the writer's background and found remarkable co-incidences of where we had been at the same places at the same time. He was 15 years older than me.
I wrote him a detailed letter siting several times and places-as an experiment-where I could accuse him of sexually assaulting me-reminding him that I would remain totally annonymous in the media whilst his name would be dragged through the press.
He'd probably be suspended and all claims of being a hetro would fall on deaf ears and probably have the opposite effect and convince people he was a closet gay. I detailed a media campaign where I could speak to tabloid TV shows with darkened profile about the vile things he made me do.
The worse that could happen-I wouldn't be believed but I had done my homework and would make a convincing witness. I'd walk away while his reputation would be ruined forever..and if I won I detailed the compensation I would be chasing.
It was to show him how easy it could be done.
Gutless swine never replied and never even looks at me now. |
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JC |
With the recent Euro ruling, it looks unlikely that the government will be able to go ahead with plans for a compulsary nationwide DNA database, but I'm still amazed that police think it would be a good thing. Everyone seems to have overlooked how it would open the way for many more wrongful convictions. I could plan a murder, go up to someone and say "Oh you've got a hair on your shoulder let me get that for you" - take the hair and, after committing the murder, leave the hair on the body. The poor sod would then have to explain why his hair was on someone he claims never to have met and, most likely, because of this indisputable DNA evidence he'd be found guilty. There are also many other ways to get hold of someone's DNA, and many ways to make sure you don't leave any significant amount of your own. Those who claim that DNA is conclusive are idiots. |
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