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Topic History of: Leading Microbiologist has life ruined for looking at pictures
Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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veritas no problems Pop !
Pop Apologies, I actually missed that bit due to it being directly under the title. I think we are pretty much in agreement in that case.
veritas Pop wrote:
Whilst I accept and agree with a lot of what you say regarding media feeding frenzy and public overreaction etc, this question still remains:-
Should be free to download , view, and store images that child abuse for personal gratification?
In the case of the microbiologist, we are not aware of the content of the pictures, only that he had 232 of them and some were level 4. The court was lenient, awarding £1200 costs and no custodial sentence. Do you believe that downloading images of child abuse should not be an offence?


I'm bored with this..read my answer again :

"absolutely not and I have not said that or given that indication"

and stop putting words into people's mouths.
Pop Whilst I accept and agree with a lot of what you say regarding media feeding frenzy and public overreaction etc, this question still remains:-
Should be free to download , view, and store images that child abuse for personal gratification?
In the case of the microbiologist, we are not aware of the content of the pictures, only that he had 232 of them and some were level 4. The court was lenient, awarding £1200 costs and no custodial sentence. Do you believe that downloading images of child abuse should not be an offence?
veritas absolutely not and I have not said that or given that indication.

I'm more disappointed about the whole hysteria and hypocrisy that surrounds any sort of discussion or the implementation of laws whenever the subject of sex is involved.

It leads to the mania that you have in the USA where teenagers are declared 'sex offenders' for life which restricts where they can live, public vilification for life and idiotic rules like not being able to be in certain public areas like a park etc.

And that has now taken a further move with authorities deciding people can be incarcerated beyond their original sentence.

In the case of the microbiologist- although I cannot be sure but the reality is that after whatever sentence he gets (if he is guilty) he will be punished long after it in a continuing series of restrictions that have no logical sense but are brought about by media hysteria.

The same media-as in the Murdoch press that not only promotes porn and made money from it, helps promote hysteria that forces politicians to make laws that are not based upon research, the welfare of victims but on knee jerk reactions. Britain once had it's own identity which has now been submerged with that of the USA after decades of influence from the far right.

In fact I just watched a fascinating interview with the Mexican writer Lydia Cacho who exposed a dreadful situation of child abuse and porn rings in Cancun involving politicians etc....and I believe that the way in which we in countries like UK USA etc beat-up cases here we don't really give a stuff about what happens in the third world where - as an example..5 children a day die from neglect and abuse (non sexual) in the USA whereas child sexual abuse cases..a few are murdered every week.

Basically none of us give a flying f**k about those 5 who die every day but we are riveted by anything involving sex in the tabloids.

I do not have the solution but a thousand professionals should be able to get together to rationally discuss what changes should be brought about to solve certain problems but by even announcing they were doing that they would be howled down in the media.