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Topic History of: Cheater Chaytor jailed for 18 months
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veritas |
well he is hardly likely to be elected to parliament again and a person should never be punished on the basis of a possible future crime.
Nor do I believe 'messages' should be sent out...a totally meaningless concept that has never worked yet (unless someone can show me differently)
If his sentence is the norm then yes, a person must be treated as others are but I still believe jail should be a last choice now..genuine useful community service I reckon would be cheaper and more productive.
(like my friend in Sweden who was jailed for attempted bank robbery and was allowed to start a video import business in the can..never robbed another bank..as far as I know  )
Particularly as jails just become re-cycling centres. |
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anon |
veritas wrote:
Anon wrote:
Prison is not just to protect society though. It is to serve as a deterrent and to 'punish' offenders. He will not re-offend, mark my words.
well I'm not sure how he could re-offend as it is highly unlikely he would ever be a position to again.
For that reason I believe the sentence to be harsh and again, a community service order would have been ideal.
Why would he not be in a position to carru out false accounting again? He is free to conduct business as he wishes!¬
Prison is the norm, and not the exception for such crimes. I consider the sentence aporopriate, particularly as the offender should have set a good example, given his position as a law maker |
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veritas |
Anon wrote:
Prison is not just to protect society though. It is to serve as a deterrent and to 'punish' offenders. He will not re-offend, mark my words.
well I'm not sure how he could re-offend as it is highly unlikely he would ever be a position to again.
For that reason I believe the sentence to be harsh and again, a community service order would have been ideal. |
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SJB |
I'll just quickly answer a couple of your questions.
why do you assume that now his career political is over, he will not continue to be a risk to the public by false accounting or other dishonest business practices
I don't. That's why I suggested an extra measure of financial or auditing scrutiny as an ongoing preventative and rehabilitative measure.
Would you grant that same latitude to a common car thief or burglar?
Yes, assuming their criminal history was similar to David Chaytor's ie relatively small scale offending with no prior convictions and no other aggravating factors.
I'm afraid I don't really get your point about the two-tier justice and the window cleaner, so I can't answer that. |
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anon |
I suggest that false accounting would escalate should the threat of prison be removed. Community service is a soft option that any one would choose over prison, therefore lessening the deterrent effect.
I agree that David Chaytor does not pose a risk of physical violence to the public which in my opinion is irrelevant anyway since the sentence is for the purpose of punishment, not public protection. However, why do you assume that now his career political is over, he will not continue to be a risk to the public by false accounting or other dishonest business practices in any private enterprise that he pursues. Would you grant that same latitude to a common car thief or burglar? Surely, until he has been rehabilitated , he is a risk in this regard?
Finally , your solution/punishment, smacks of a two tier justice system, unless you believe that restrictions on the public offices offenders could hold may deter your local window cleaner from being less than honest in his accounting! Nope. politicians are thieves too, they are just more highbrow thieves. |
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