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Topic History of: Keys and Gray
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JK2006 Not being a football fan I'm fairly vague about the talents of those who mutter "they think it's all over - it is now" and other such great and meaningful comments on the state of society but it does amuse me that the corporation firing men for sniggering at women makes most of its money catering to those who adore sneering at breasts at breakfast.
Goodness - they will be abusing children by printing false stories about pre pubescent fathers next.
andrew If you think about it it was a private conversation that got picked on their mics. They are best pundits on Sky Sports it won;t be the same. Sky are nit picking in to Grays past who hasen't leered at woman on stage before ?

Bring back Keys and Gray.
Prunella Minge Now Keys has gone. Good riddance. I've met quite a few people who've worked with him and Gray and I've heard nothing but negative comments about them.
Locked Out Let's look at this another way. Had Gordon Brown {or, depending on your politics David Cameron or Nick Clegg}, in an off mic moment, called into question the ability to do an entirely cerebral job by a woman for no other reason than she was a woman no one here would have a problem with "political correctness gone mad". The fact is that these two morons {who, for some unaccountable reason, are seen as influential, knowledgeable people whose views matter to their audience - otherwise they wouldn't be commentators} have reinforced the view among a section of their audience that it's OK to believe that a woman can't possibly comprehend the offside rule {and I promise you her understanding is in every way superior to my own}.
In all honesty I couldn't give a toss what these guys - or any other football pundits - think {if indeed they think at all} about anything, not least because my view of football commentators is very much akin to these guys' view of women. I hope this contribution isn't nearly as po faced as it may first appear, it just amuses me to see that this has provoked such a different reaction here to Gordon Brown's unfortunate off mic experience during the election campaign. I don't recall anyone then being quite so forgiving of someone making an off the cuff remark when it was thought no one was listening.
Prunella Minge Pumpkinhead wrote:
Andy Gray, like many of his fellow sports commentators, was giving his opinion of a official. Most officials may have taken it in the chin, but some women demand preferential treatment. Equality is enough for them.

1. He wasn't 'giving his opinion,' he was spouting abuse. Sexual or racial, this kind of so-called 'banter' shouldn't be excused.
2. The woman in question did not respond at all, so why you're suggesting she wanted 'preferential treatment,' or anything other than equal respect is a mystery. It was other people who complained, and good for them.