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Topic History of: No woman should be sent to prison in the UK
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Evo	I agree Hamlet women should be treated exactly the same as men
veritas	I agree with you that males and females should be treated exactly the same but if a third party will suffer ..ie-kids-it should be taken into consideration. buts it very complicated and given the current reactionary climate there isn't going to be any change in the prisons..people will get banged up regardless because gutless pollies are too frightened. you don't get politicians with convictions any more.
Hamlet	"I disagree. Why do innocent children have to suffer for their parent's mistakes ? it's institutionalised child abuse." No it isn't. What you are proposing is discriminatory and unfair. Why should only single males be sent to prison? Women who go out and commit the same offences should not be able to bleat "I've got kids so you can't send me down". Its discrimination against single men.
Ted	No one should go to prison. We should shut them all down. If someone is a danger to society then they should be treated as patients. What good does it do to punish people? Absolutely none. We ignore the causes of crime and so they just keep occurring and we just keep throwing more people in prison. I guess it gives good job security to people working in law enforcement. And it's just easier to throw people in prison and forget that they exist, right? Let's not ask the tough questions. Society shouldn't have to take any responsibility for the criminals it creates. People do bad things for no other reason than they choose to. It's "free willed." Isn't that where we're at right now with our thinking? Still in the 18th century.
veritas	Hamlet wrote: If women commit the same crimes as men then they should get the same sentence. Simples. I couldn't give a monkeys if they have kids or not. I disagree. Why do innocent children have to suffer for their parent's mistakes ? it's institutionalised child abuse. and yes Blackit..in the majority of divorces the mother does get to keep the kids but of course, women and men should be treated equally and whatever parent is the caregiver- that should be taken into consideration as they do in South America but then there isn't the stigma attached to jail as there is in Puritan type countries like the US, UK, NZ and Oz. That's if people really do want less traumatised future generations but asking politicians and those led by the nose by tabloids to consider that there will be another huge swag of young people growing up with all the problems of the last is asking them to tax their brains too much.