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Topic History of: Hooray for common sense !!!!
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In The Know You should be over here now, veritas - listening to the Jeremy Vine Show.

Alan Johnson and Bow Crowe (for the loonies), discussing union power with Norman Tebbett !!!

Tebbett wiped the floor wiv 'em !
Hedda steveimp wrote:
I have a heavy cold so have only just got up, but on waking up, the radio is awash with more lurid accusations at JS.

Yet the elephant in the room is still being missed - WHERE IS THE EFFING EVIDENCE?


we await the evidence .

as for hippies...I was travelling on a Greyhound bus through New Mexico in 1973 (?) and I saw a sign on a pick-up truck :
WE SHOOT HIPPIES

I now agree.
steveimp I have a heavy cold so have only just got up, but on waking up, the radio is awash with more lurid accusations at JS.

Yet the elephant in the room is still being missed - WHERE IS THE EFFING EVIDENCE?
In The Know Hedda wrote:
come on ITK fess up..your name is George Osborne.

No, veritas - I've already told you, I'm an aging hippy !

Our goals and aims are the same (but you are so stuck in your loony Labour mantra that you cannot see that) ... its just that I can see a realistic route to achieving them, whereas you live in Cloud Cuckoo Land !

Every penny, yes, every single penny "saved" by stopping scroungers should go directly into helping others (NHS for example) - those that really need help and are not simply joining the free-for-all bandwagon (of "let the fools - who are daft enough to - pay" !)
Hedda's History In The Know wrote:
Hedda wrote:
what-will-happen-to-property-prices-if- billions- of- pounds- are- withdrawn -from-the-housing -industry ?. Why can't you answer ?

I have answered - you refuse to comprehend.
Nothing will happen because the subsidy currently paid by the government will simply be paid by the renter instead (who will HAVE to find a job !)

Demand (for housing) outstrips supply (here in the UK).
If the renter cannot pay - there are plenty who will.

and please offer a solution for unemployment in a country that has outsourced most of it's manufacturing.

I've answered this many many times. We've already spent a fortune (on the education of the dolers) - why should we waste any more of our hard earned money?
THAT IS A QUESTION YOU CANNOT ANSWER !

You have to accept that we dont need "thickies" anymore. Let their parents (who produced them / financial gained from having them) support them.
This is simply nature ... the "runts" of the litter.

The more we "prop up" these scroungers the more join the queue (as has happened under YOUR Labour party for the last 20 years - the party that likes to control everyones lives.

The Conservatives want to drag everyone UP to a better level - Labour want to drag everyone DOWN to a base level (where they can be controlled more easily).

We've already paid a fortune to educate each and every one of these people - is it our fault that they are too thick / too idle to take advantage of the benefits?


So what is your plan for the Chavs ?..firing squad/Soylent Green/ cheap labour ?

The battle of idealogies has always been basically that-

(a) The Law Of The Jungle should rule..favoured by the right / conservatives/fascists /ITK / George Osborne / Bullingdon Club reprobates etc, the tough shall rule the weakest..
or

(b) capitalism (always destined for boom/bust and more trouble than it's worth), communism (an undoubted success when applied for say 50 years ..Russia, China) socialism (the fairest) social democracy (good blend to keep the masses happy..has worked for most of Europe and the UK)) or anarchy (probably the most truthful system but the big flaw..Bullingdon Club plonkers may end up ruling the intelligent)

The real and most basic system that works : The Law Of The Jungle but sadly it's appropriated by the Right / Fascists etc who pervert it. How does it work in reality?..just look at the Jungle and animals :

1. they only kill to feed themselves.
2. they only kill to feed themselves that day
3. ie : greed is an unknown concept..animals do not accumulate wealth at the expense of other animals.
4. As that organ of truth the Daily Mail ably demonstrated just the other day : a Lioness killed an Impala to feed herself and her kittens.
The lioness suddenly discovered the baby of the Impala it had just killed. It adopted the baby Impala and treated it as one of it's kittens. In the Jungle there is no war, revenge or needless deaths.
5. Animals only want as much territory needed to survive..they allow all the other animals to live in the jungle. They do not accumulate land for 'wealth'

So Socialism is already a natural order and has much in common with the Law of The Jungle.

It gets better : Swedish scientists have done extensive studies with the cleverest of animals and our closest anscestors- Apes and Monkeys:

What they discovered with Apes and Monkeys is that :
if they fed one Monkey in a cage and not the other..the Monkey with the food becomes agitated and try to get some of it's food to it's neighbour Monkey.

If they fed all the Monkees there was harmony.

If they gave one Monkey an excess of food, and no food to the other Monkees but allowed the Monkey with food access to it's neighbouring Monkees, that Monkey would share the food about and all would eat in harmony.

Voila !!! positive proof that Socialism is the natural order of man as he evolves.