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Topic History of: Esther's nutty reasoning
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JK2006 wrote:
And Blessed Esther cannot imagine anyone would ever lie (forgetting that not only are there lying children but honest kids grow up to become lying adults).
She says "we all heard rumours about Savile" but the biggest rumours in the 60s and 70s were about her behaviour regarding Bernard Braden, Desmond Willcox and the BBC - and we all heard those (and dismissed them as bitchiness).
I still believe the majority of false accusers don't know they are lying; they have genuinely persuaded themselves that things happened. And usually it's a case of exaggeration - a kiss and pinched bum becomes rape etc.
What would Esther think if a man in his 50s came forward and accused her of raping him when he was a teenager?
A lot of false accusers are perhaps no longer aware they are 'lying' because lying is a way of life to them. They lie about everything in their life if it doesn't tally with the image of themself they've created for themself. If something goes wrong because of something they have done they will admit no part in it, it was someone else's fault.
E.g A woman loses her kids because she abandoned them and her ex partner gets custody of them. If the woman is the type of woman i'm talking about here, she won't hold her hands up and ever admit SHE made a mistake, oh no, she'll claim the reason she disappeared with another man for 2 weeks, leaving her kids on their father's mother's doorstep was because her ex partner had been 'abusing' her, so it's not her fault, it's his fault, and everyone else's fault for not realising she was being 'abused', despite the fact she (obviously) never told anyone and there was no reason to suspect or believe she was being 'abused'.
People like this do not 'know they are lying' because they have convinced themselves they are so perfect that they would not lie and they are always right, no matter what. Which is a complete lie in itself, their entire lives are based on lies.
Their ego does not allow them to admit, even to themselves, that THEY, themselves could ever be wrong, or that THEY themselves might want to take a look at themself and make a few changes. They are very manipulative though and will tell more lies to cover the ones they've already told, so I think most of them actually do know they are lying, but they'll never admit to it and they've used the story so often that they often temporarily FORGET that what they are saying is really just lies.
There's a name for this, it's called 'Narcissistic personality' and I know people with it...  |
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hedda wrote:
In her article Ms Rantzen says
"One criminal barrister told me: ‘I don’t care how great a monster my client is, and what it takes to break down a child, it’s my job to do it and I will.
So you can understand why the police were reluctant to take the cases against Savile to court. No jury in the world, they thought, would believe the word of a vulnerable child against one of the nation’s most skilled and most admired entertainers, knighted for his achievements for charity."
Those who complained in 2007 were about 50 years old. Not children.
Is this women really in charge of Childline and on the board of the NSPCC???
She's rambling ! 
Even if these women had complained directly after they claim these incidents happed, the term 'vulnerable child' conjours up images of a 4 year old hugging their security blanket not a 15/16 year old deliquent whose probably well used to arguing with those in authority and decieving.
Esther does not want to see these women face cross examination because then their lies would be revealed. This is what they were afraid of in 2007, which is why none of them would support a prosecution (though they needn't have worried as it wouldn't have made it to court anyway), and why some of them have waited until now, after he's dead, to come out with more elaborate allegations.
I also find it strange that Meirion Jones saw fit to wait until, not just after his death, but STRAIGHT after his death to start the Newsnight investigation. The word 'coward' springs to mind, as it certainly wasn't out of respect to Jimmy Savile or his family... |
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Furfrock Zones |
JK2006 wrote:
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What would Esther think if a man in his 50s came forward and accused her of raping him when he was a teenager?
The police could just check for teethmarks. |
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JK2006 wrote:
And Blessed Esther cannot imagine anyone would ever lie (forgetting that not only are there lying children but honest kids grow up to become lying adults).
She says "we all heard rumours about Savile" but the biggest rumours in the 60s and 70s were about her behaviour regarding Bernard Braden, Desmond Willcox and the BBC - and we all heard those (and dismissed them as bitchiness).
I still believe the majority of false accusers don't know they are lying; they have genuinely persuaded themselves that things happened. And usually it's a case of exaggeration - a kiss and pinched bum becomes rape etc.
What would Esther think if a man in his 50s came forward and accused her of raping him when he was a teenager?
Isn't the thing? Are males less likely to claim they were raped by a woman? Would they bother to complain? Apart from taking it, that they were seduced. I wonder what the percentage us, of men claiming to have been raped by a woman & are women bigger liars than man, generally? Can one perform a liar detector test, or would it be pointless, as some woman have totally convinced themselves that fantasy is a reality? Can anyone really remember much from being 15?
My memories of 15 are my dog ran off, I used to bunk off games at school, mum & dad were arguing more & a mate at school was rather interested in mutual masturbation. Which I wasn't! Though 3 years later, I remember sitting on a bench in town, when some scruffy herbert started chatting to me, later suggested much the same (as my fellow school mate). I declined the offer & walk away from the bloke...No pressure, & no it didn't affect me. I think I had a choice & likely as not thse girls, also were not pressured, but curiosity killed the cat & they later think, they made a mistake & think they are owed something. Learning to say "No", 40 years ago, may have helped! |
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JK2006 |
And Blessed Esther cannot imagine anyone would ever lie (forgetting that not only are there lying children but honest kids grow up to become lying adults).
She says "we all heard rumours about Savile" but the biggest rumours in the 60s and 70s were about her behaviour regarding Bernard Braden, Desmond Willcox and the BBC - and we all heard those (and dismissed them as bitchiness).
I still believe the majority of false accusers don't know they are lying; they have genuinely persuaded themselves that things happened. And usually it's a case of exaggeration - a kiss and pinched bum becomes rape etc.
What would Esther think if a man in his 50s came forward and accused her of raping him when he was a teenager? |
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