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Topic History of: Austria pull out - why? Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
DJones |
there is a culture influence. Just look at Austria and Germany: For decades they gave each other zero points ... |
Anthony |
mikemacca wrote:
The only way for any non East European country to win is to put a song in that gets 5 or 6 votes from all the east European countries.(as Finland did in 2006) and it helps if you are in Scandinavia as then you get another 45 point start.
The only way for an East European country to win is to get at least 5 or 6 votes from all the Western European countries too. Serbia would still have won the contest this year even taking all the Eastern European votes out of the equation. Finland got 10 points from Croatia and Bosnia in 2006 and and 8 from Slovenia.
So, although it would be futile of me to deny that there is a cultural influence to the voting, it is not as predictable as people claim.
Montenegro failed to qualify this year and did not score highly from its former Yugoslav neighbours. Croatia didn't make it either. The song has to be good to win votes from anywhere.
There is absolutely no reason why UK cannot win the contest again. But it needs a JK at the helm! |
mikemacca |
The difference in 1997 was virtually all were closed juries. Now with televoting, 20 countries do vote the same every year. You know exactly where the 8, 10 and 12 will go to from Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary, Croatia, Macedonia, Slovenia, Estonia, Montenegro, Moldova, Bosnia, Romania and Armenia. Then Austria and Switzerland have given the 8,10 and 12 each year to Serbia, Macedonia and Bosnia each time since 2004.
Germany, France, Netherland and Belgium give Turkey and Armenia the 12 and 10 every year now.
These votes will never change under televoting as it is clearly the country being voted for not the song or performer.
The only way for any non East European country to win is to put a song in that gets 5 or 6 votes from all the east European countries.(as Finland did in 2006) and it helps if you are in Scandinavia as then you get another 45 point start.
One thing would be certain, give the UK contest back to our JK and the standard of song would improve dramatically,even if not the final result. |
Anthony |
JK2006 wrote:
It took me two years but I brought the UK a winner in 1997 with the largest points margin ever at that time.
It is still the largest points margin ever, JK. I have just checked to make sure.
I really must get out more. |
Michael |
Oops, I already did:
www.a-lyric.com/archives/austria-pulls-out-of-eurovision/ |
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