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Topic History of: Darren Burn - Child Singer - Man Alive - Twinkle Twinkle Little Star - 1973
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Chris |
On hearing of the death of Liam Payne I immediately thought of this discussion I added to previously on Darren Burn. Almost the same age too. Either end of the extreme in the business, so you can't win, one had fantastic fame and the other didn't, but similar outcomes. The list of pop's young victims grows longer. |
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robbiex wrote:
Rich wrote:
Thanks for the comments to my opener on this programme and story, especially the ones from yourself here JK, I'm reading them with genuine interest.
Robbie I have noticed you place a comment under this programme on You Tube regards Man Alive and I agree with you entirely. They may not have seemed it at the time but many of these documentaries provide a very important cultural, societal and historical record of the times they were first broadcast and if the BBC had any sense of purpose they would see this and place them long term on their iPlayer archive to be viewed on demand.
When Stella drew attention to the young age Darren Burn was when they checked in on him many years later and he was still only in his mid to late 20's it reminded me of seeing David Cassidy on Top Of The Pops early in 1985 when he suddenly returned to the charts with a great top ten hit called The Last Kiss, having not touched the charts in ten years since the mid 70's. I was too young to recall him the first time around in his heyday but watching his re-emergence with that song in '85 I vividly recall thinking of him as a long forgotten has been from a time long ago standing out like a sore thumb, and yet he was only 35 years old! Even with Cassidy there seemed to be a sadness at the heart of him and even he, with his hugely successful story seems to have ended up troubled, leading to an early passing.
But to counter this it is at least good to see that Donny Osmond has managed to navigate all the perils of such early childhood success and come through looking and sounding just great and with a happy and likeable peronality to this very day and at 66 remains very young at heart and in all round good shape.
JK you mentioned Ricky Wilde here and of course he was prominent on the Man Alive programme. BUT WHY WAS NOBODY NOTICING KIM? She was kept well out of sight. In the summer of 1973 at the time of the documentary she was just a few months older than Darren Burn. Yet she was the real deal set for well deserved stardom within just another 8 years, I've bought her records and enjoy them to this day. Obviously she was giving no vibes of future potential at 13 then. I suppose this was seen as a boys thing at the time. The only girl I can think of in this 1973 era who charted is Lena Zavaroni and look what happened there too, yet more misery and gone at 35.
I think Kim was quite shy as a child/young teen and didn't have the confidence until she was 20 or 21 and Ricky Wilde took a tape to Mickie Most. Mickie suggested that Kim should sing and the rest is history. With regards to showing these programmes on demand, I guess there might be issues with clearing the shows with the people involved.
You are right Robbie. A friend of my partner was involved in the wrestling scene in the 70s and 80s for various promotions. ITV have about roughly 80-90% of the archives that exists, there is no clear figure. He was at the meeting when Greg Dyke axed the wrestling.
He wanted to release the release the archives on to DVD for retail.
ITV wanted £90 per tape from him, then he was warned he had to pay clearences to the the Kent Walton estate and the wrestlers estate. Everyone wants to be paid.
Music rights was soon added in the equation. There was a disco ladder match he wanted to put out and remaster it.
Then to add more arse-ache he told by WWE not to has some wrestlers are under a trademark in the WWE etc. |
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robbiex |
Rich wrote:
Thanks for the comments to my opener on this programme and story, especially the ones from yourself here JK, I'm reading them with genuine interest.
Robbie I have noticed you place a comment under this programme on You Tube regards Man Alive and I agree with you entirely. They may not have seemed it at the time but many of these documentaries provide a very important cultural, societal and historical record of the times they were first broadcast and if the BBC had any sense of purpose they would see this and place them long term on their iPlayer archive to be viewed on demand.
When Stella drew attention to the young age Darren Burn was when they checked in on him many years later and he was still only in his mid to late 20's it reminded me of seeing David Cassidy on Top Of The Pops early in 1985 when he suddenly returned to the charts with a great top ten hit called The Last Kiss, having not touched the charts in ten years since the mid 70's. I was too young to recall him the first time around in his heyday but watching his re-emergence with that song in '85 I vividly recall thinking of him as a long forgotten has been from a time long ago standing out like a sore thumb, and yet he was only 35 years old! Even with Cassidy there seemed to be a sadness at the heart of him and even he, with his hugely successful story seems to have ended up troubled, leading to an early passing.
But to counter this it is at least good to see that Donny Osmond has managed to navigate all the perils of such early childhood success and come through looking and sounding just great and with a happy and likeable peronality to this very day and at 66 remains very young at heart and in all round good shape.
JK you mentioned Ricky Wilde here and of course he was prominent on the Man Alive programme. BUT WHY WAS NOBODY NOTICING KIM? She was kept well out of sight. In the summer of 1973 at the time of the documentary she was just a few months older than Darren Burn. Yet she was the real deal set for well deserved stardom within just another 8 years, I've bought her records and enjoy them to this day. Obviously she was giving no vibes of future potential at 13 then. I suppose this was seen as a boys thing at the time. The only girl I can think of in this 1973 era who charted is Lena Zavaroni and look what happened there too, yet more misery and gone at 35.
I think Kim was quite shy as a child/young teen and didn't have the confidence until she was 20 or 21 and Ricky Wilde took a tape to Mickie Most. Mickie suggested that Kim should sing and the rest is history. With regards to showing these programmes on demand, I guess there might be issues with clearing the shows with the people involved. |
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JK2006 |
Funnily enough after the Partridge Family broke (AFTER Simon was launched) we sent Simon over to Los Angeles - the producers wanted him as the English cousin, as they thought he could be huge in America. Sadly the audition came to nothing. |
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Chris |
Wouldn't it be amazing to be able to see how Elvis looked and sounded as an 11 year old child. What a shame no such footage likely exists.
As for the manager, wasn't he responsible for keeping him out of the UK? It's still shocks me that the biggest star in the world bar none never came to the UK or set foot in London or anywhere else over his lifetime, except for the quick military stopover at Prestwick airport, although I did read a weird little story not so long back that suggested he might have done an incognito tour of the London landmarks with Tommy Steele in 1958, but it's probably an urban legend. |
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