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Topic History of: Terry and "Block voting"
Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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Anthony |
You make some good points, Mike. The 6 points San Marino gave to UK was probably a jury vote where the members give the song a mark out of 10. I expect that if all countries voted that way, Andy may well have been mid table. I doubt the song would have been the least favourite in the minds of many viewers, but they are only voting for their favourite, and the BBC needs to take that into account when choosing the UK finalists.
There was not one song amongst the six which would have fared much better. |
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Mike Willis |
I think to be fair, JK and Anthony have far more knowledge on Eurovision than myself, so maybe if another Katrina and the Waves or a well-known group/artist wants to represent the UK, then perhaps we could do well again.
Remember Jessica Garlick's entry in 2002 and we finished 3rd (or was it 2nd), all of other entries from Gemini, James Fox, Javine, Daz and Scooch, were all awful songs and badly performed.
However, I still stand by the fact that Andy Abrahams should of done far better than 14 points, I'm certainly not saying he should of won, but I think a mid-table finish would have been a better reflection. I'm sure people from Eastern European countries buy Rolling Stones, Coldplay etc CD's, so we are not hated by them, however, their is still some political bias with the break up of some of the countries in Eastern Europe?
I also stand by the fact that Wogan seemed fed-up with it as he championed Andy Abraham's bid to the hilt and judged it on performance rather than the song. Michelle Gayle would have been the better choice. Maybe it is time for something new, the BBC will not stop spending money on a show that had 9.5 million viewers watching it, so a change of format may be long overdue. |
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Francis D |
Just as a random throw in, not proving anything, I thought I'd share the fact that a friend of mine in Latvia thought that the UK song was the best. He's not the type to just say that because I'm English. Maybe he was the only one, but somebody out there liked it. And he voted for it.
I wonder if other countries can be as sure of their phone voting system as we are of ours (I jest). So many scandals recently which have shown how vulnerable such systems can be. I watched the show but I didn't vote - for that reason. |
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Anthony |
Denise wrote:
Was the British song really worse than the Spanish song?
No, Denise, but what it had was a comedy value. The worst thing to be in a format where the public vote on their favourite is average. Bland songs will always do worse than ridiculous songs. There has to be something to make you remember the song. As JK says, the best thing of all is a class song by a class performer. Croatia gave 12 points to Katrina in 1997, not to their neighbours in Slovenia.
The term "block voting" suggests an element of cheating. People simply pick up the phone and vote for what they genuinely believe to be their favourite. |
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JK2006 |
Ah Denise - my theory is... given a real global hit sung by a good performer and the public will vote for it.
Anything less and they will vote for neighbours, similar looks, gimmicks and so on.
So we can expect "block voting" when the songs and performances are average to good.
Only the GREAT will cross boundaries - and quite right too. |
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