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Topic History of: The Word folds
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GG re the Charts:......Well Dixie, last year it took the lowest number of sales for an album to go in at Billboard number 1, and I believe it was in the 50,000 range, which is quite poor, so the charts are nowhere near the same as far as its impact on a career or its meaning in 2012.

Katy Perry having 4 or 5 number 1's is not even remotely the same thing as the Beatles doing it in 1964.

The celebutoid hype on Perry when that happened made me sick, pulling the wool over the eyes of an ignorant sheep public that were lapping it up...... People in the music business should understand its not the same thing. I was standing on the side of the stage at the Grammy Noms event last year which was on national television in the States, and I could hear Perry sing acoustically (unlike everyone watching on TV). She couldn't sing a note.

I've said all of this before
dixie The Charts are exactly what they are today as they were 30 years ago. A ranking of what tracks/songs that the public are purchasing in a 7 day period. Nothing more, nothing less. I would ague that they are more accurate today because the ability to "hype" (as in falsify the sales data) is less possible. (You can still influence what people buy, but that's always been the case!)
Metal Mickey The Word was an excellent magazine, supplemented by a great website (dominated by a rabid community of bloggers), tremendous podcasts, and even (fairly) regular gigs.

Unfortunately (and I say this as a fan and subscriber), it found itself painted into a corner that only appealed to white, male, middle-aged, music maniacs, which is fine in itself, but it had virtually no crossover appeal.

The Word's demise isn't about "the new model", it's simply about not reaching a level where the advertisers will pay the kinds of fees needed to maintain the costs of putting together a high-quality magazine each month.

Circulation was around 25,000 before it withdrew from ABC a while back (presumably it sunk in the meantime), but Mojo still sells almost 90,000 a month, and if anything, is growing its readership. People still like to read long, in-depth articles (which are a pain online) and see great photographs (ditto), and though I won't go so far as to say magazines will be around forever, they're not going anywhere just yet...
JK2006 No, the charts are totally unimportant except for the Xmas No1 because it gets attention from media. The charts always WERE unimportant except in the UK where TV and radio picked them up (as a way of providing cheap/free programming information) - a brilliant idea which allowed British music to dominate the world for several decades.

I'm happy for Bieber to sell; just sad the music is not better. Even manufactured groups and artistes CAN be great (as Don Kirshner proved with the early Monkees thanks to Neil Diamond and John Stewart).

I bet you Justin would be far, far happier making the music HE loves to make - after training, tuition, learning, rehearsing. And I bet he'll be as screwed up as Michael Jackson was by the time he's 30.
Jaded and Bored @GG Adele on an indie label is a one in a blue moon sort of thing as far as the old model system is concerned.
Credit to them for getting all that exposure but sadly that is a serious exception.

@JK & GG Can you be pleased? Bieber is still selling and appeals to the kids, yet you find fault. It is what it
is and Bieber is a superstar. For heaven's sake JK you are really being crass by calling this child abuse.

The new model will level the playing field in ways that none of you old schoolers will believe. As soon as you
embrace the new model you will find that artists will flourish, novelty acts will flourish, everyone will flourish.
Of course there will be winners and losers but there will be NO guesswork with music and it won't need a ridiculous
budget to promote. There are a lot of things driving the new model. Technology is the most important factor.
It is technology that brought the new model into existence. Let's not be silly here, the charts are still important.