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Topic History of: Mass appeal music has lost its way...
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Botkins Well, yes, it is, actually. You might define things differently. You're obviously arrogant enough to do so.
In The Know Pru wrote:
Most really big shows, week in week out, averaged about 10-12 million, so there's actually a relatively modest decline thanks to multichannels

if there's a truly big show, it will find a big audience, and the same goes for music.


According to the Guardian, the biggest TV audience this year was for the Britain's Got Talent final (11.1 million).

Even that is in decline as last year it got 11.4 million, in 2012 12.3 million (combined live final and results show), and in 2009 15 million.

www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jun/10/bri...ent-final-tv-ratings

11.1 million (out of a UK population of 63 million) is hardly mass audience, is it?
Prunella Minge I've been working in Spain for a while until recently and I haven't noticed the same kind of obsession with demographics etc in music or any other of the arts. The UK seems worse than ever now. And the music industry here is full of people who don't care about music. Depressing.
JK2006 Well, over a thousand have now perused and, I assume, considered this topic; how many of them, I wonder, work in the music industry?
Last time I visited a major the atmosphere was ghastly. Partly due to new technology, of course (I remember a decline when they invented headphones!) but mainly because the employees simply don't care anymore.

Which I suspect is why they don't bother reading these threads either.

When you don't really care for the industry you work in - why bother to think about it, let alone contribute to discussions on it.

And the answer lies in that very wording. In my time (years ago) virtually NOBODY worked in music - we were all in it because we loved it. We lived it, breathed it, heard it, talked about it, spread the word about it, ate it, drank it...

We never fucking thought of it as work.
In The Know Pru wrote:

You ignore Lol's main points. Morecambe and Wise only got 20m plus at Christmas, for about three shows. That's it. Most really big shows, week in week out, averaged about 10-12 million, so there's actually a relatively modest decline thanks to multichannels, the vast majority of which don't even register enough viewers to qualify for ratings. And executives were dismissing the idea of shows that would get a big slice of the audience, with a broad age range, at weekends - much as you are doing now - a year or two before it happened again. There is no fate about this, no necessity - if there's a truly big show, it will find a big audience, and the same goes for music. Don't try it and - wow - your argument is 'proven,' except it's a delusion.


You may be right Pru ... all I know is that TV is now a relatively low choice in the ITK household - we have much more control over what we watch these days (and how we watch it).

I like the old music documentaries on Beeb 4, and also the historical programmes. Not watched X Factor since 2005, and never ever seem the "dancing" progs (life's too short - but I guess there will be a coach potato audience for it, whatever is on).

After all, you are speaking to the man who managed to avoid ALL of the Olympic coverage LOL !