Nothing meant by this post to anyone who knows anyone who has been affected by it, and the stories are awful to hear........but

......this new phenomenon needs some work urgently. Not the law, not cyber policing, not anything governmental..........we need EDUCATION

The Cyber World is not REAL. The place doesn't exist. WE NEED TO TEACH CHILDREN REAL FROM CYBER........i know there is peer pressure, I'm know teenagers suffer from insecurity, I know all of the backgrounds scenarios.....but we need to educate children to be able to SAY NO to the cyber world as a means for communication....we need to stand with our children and say no to after school social networking and playground phone bullying.....IT ISN'T REAL, the real world can't be stopped, time moves on, and so should social interactions outside of the school world , either after school hours or after school age and into real life..........STOP BEING CYBER as if CYBER really matters....it is a tool, it isn't an alternative to real, the hear and now

and we need to teach the world to remove itself from threatening CYBER worlds by just removing yourself from the environment.......you stay alive, they CYBER world doesn't come after you and it doesn't matter that you are not connected. If you need to communicate, don't do it from a PC or phone via social medie. INTERACT with those around you who you trust and who can guide you

CYBER feeds vulnerability, we need to eductae and support and cut the food off

When it's really bullying, of course it's bad, but we're also witnessing a strange phenomenon of cyber-masochism. Take Mary Beard: why on earth does someone supposedly intelligent and mature appears on TV and then...goes and reads what people say about her? You might as well take your clothes off, walk into the most insalubrious pub you can find and invite critiques. Everyone on TV gets slagged off on Twitter etc, non stop. That isn't bullying, that's just thoughtless thinking out loud by idiots. But Beard seeks it out and then runs screaming to the papers. Some academics have the emotional life of a teenager.

As well as the bullying element, i've also come across a wind up thing too.

The one where people may post on social platforms, forums etc & someone comes on & tries to deliberately wind them up. They pick holes in a persons spelling etc & then question the points they've made & just go on & on & generally pick an argument.

Just as bad & annoying (& in context,another form of bullying).

I was bullied at school because I was 'different' looking (beautiful). I can imagine how today if that includes Twatter and Facebook teenagers could feel absolutely devastated...afterall they are a mess of hormones at the best of times.

Unfortunately with every great new thing- internet- comes a downside . It's given bullies and nutbags an outlet. Like David Icke they can fan madness.

I really dislike the claim these days that even correcting spelling is 'bullying'. Standards have collapsed. People used to be embarrassed about their poor spelling, but now they almost seem proud of it. It's not a style choice - it's SPELLING!

Kenneth Mintcake wrote:
I really dislike the claim these days that even correcting spelling is 'bullying'. Standards have collapsed. People used to be embarrassed about their poor spelling, but now they almost seem proud of it. It's not a style choice - it's SPELLING!

If everybody is corrected equally that is fine, but sometimes one person is picked on. It depends on the manner i suppose? However, if someone would explain to me the correct use of "texts, text texting and texted" I would be thrilled.

Kenneth Mintcake wrote:
I really dislike the claim these days that even correcting spelling is 'bullying'. Standards have collapsed. People used to be embarrassed about their poor spelling, but now they almost seem proud of it. It's not a style choice - it's SPELLING!
I do agree a tad. Not so much on spelling (as long as everybody can understand what people are trying to say).

What does annoy me about people (even in everyday speach) is using the wrong words, not the spelling.

The people that overuse the word "So", as in I "SO" don't want to be here. Isn't the correct phrase "I REALLY don't want to be here"?

Then there are those that say "Can I GET a packet of crisps", instead of "Can I HAVE a packet a crisps".

And finally those that can't tell an Episode from an Edition on TV. Daft people that say "Join us next week for another episode of Only Connect" (Victoria Coren). I was always brought up to believe an episode applied to serials & dramas, sitcoms etc. In Coren's case she surely means "Another Edition of Only Connect".

Some of these bad phrases have come from U.S. & Aussie TV Shows.

don't look at me...I am clinically dyslexic and can miss 2 or 3 words in a sentence...see them when they are not there and so on.

apparently it can come with great intelligence..

I don't care about spelling although I prefer decent education; I don't care about trolls, silly, brain dead morons not worth bothering with (flies are far more annoying); bullying has gone on since time immemorial - we all had it at school (those nice sweet innocent children are the nastiest bullies of all)... what bothers me is adults falling for total bollocks like "you will be believed" and "all children are innocent" without thinking... that kind of moronic, simplistic thinking will lead to the demise of the species, just mark my words.

JK2006 wrote:
I don't care about spelling although I prefer decent education; I don't care about trolls, silly, brain dead morons not worth bothering with (flies are far more annoying); bullying has gone on since time immemorial - we all had it at school (those nice sweet innocent children are the nastiest bullies of all)... what bothers me is adults falling for total bollocks like "you will be believed" and "all children are innocent" without thinking... that kind of moronic, simplistic thinking will lead to the demise of the species, just mark my words.

I was reminded of this many years ago when I accompanied a particularly difficult and bitchy old aunt to the doctor.

Talking to him later he said "she didn't become a bitch overnight, she was bound to be a bitch when she was 20 and probably a nasty little girl as well"

JK2006 wrote:
what bothers me is adults falling for total bollocks like "you will be believed" and "all children are innocent" without thinking... that kind of moronic, simplistic thinking will lead to the demise of the species, just mark my words.

..........and I agree to a level, but nothing is ever 'simplistic' as there are always two sides..........depending upon your own experiences, this is the case, and I can see the arguement.....but what of the duty of care to a small child who might have something to tell, and for properly and perfectly good reasons? This is the flip side, and surely can't be left unheard? I can't see that as progress.....but I can see the modern method isn't 100% infallible

Mr Reason wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
what bothers me is adults falling for total bollocks like "you will be believed" and "all children are innocent" without thinking... that kind of moronic, simplistic thinking will lead to the demise of the species, just mark my words.

..........and I agree to a level, but nothing is ever 'simplistic' as there are always two sides..........depending upon your own experiences, this is the case, and I can see the arguement.....but what of the duty of care to a small child who might have something to tell, and for properly and perfectly good reasons? This is the flip side, and surely can't be left unheard? I can't see that as progress.....but I can see the modern method isn't 100% infallible
The vastly annoying thing is when it gets turned into some super money making venture i.e. Mark Williams Thomas failed detective, turned Media Mogul. This rather defective detective had no balls, to make a documentary out of it, when the star accused was alive for fear of being hung himself.

And (the point is) that a 50 year old adult telling some account 40 years later, because they are skint, also has a vastly annoying point to it...considering the very charities catered for by the JS funding, to help the real needy have been frozen to look after various lawyers & skint exaggerators that now decide they might of been the subject of dodgy fiddling, years ago & (even if they were not) they have convinced themselves & dodgy detectives to the contary.