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#102091
hedda

"sexual touching" 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
how can anyone defend themselves from such an historic accusation ?
 
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#102107
Re: 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
how can anyone defend themselves from such an historic accusation ?

Everyone has accidentally brushed against a breast or penis so we might as well give ourselves up to police now and have done with it.
 
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#102109
Jim

Re: 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
hedda wrote:
how can anyone defend themselves from such an historic accusation ?

Everyone has accidentally brushed against a breast or penis so we might as well give ourselves up to police now and have done with it.


Don't be silly. It's not sexual if you didn't obtain any pleasure from it.

What puzzles me is why whether you obtained pleasure from it should be the tenuous thread from which hangs the question of whether it destroyed the touched one's life.

That was a very ungainly sentence, but I hope you know what I mean.
 
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Re: 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Jim wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
hedda wrote:
how can anyone defend themselves from such an historic accusation ?

Everyone has accidentally brushed against a breast or penis so we might as well give ourselves up to police now and have done with it.


Don't be silly. It's not sexual if you didn't obtain any pleasure from it.

What puzzles me is why whether you obtained pleasure from it should be the tenuous thread from which hangs the question of whether it destroyed the touched one's life.

That was a very ungainly sentence, but I hope you know what I mean.


Or the other way around. It could be an accidental brush that you are unaware of, but your "victim" could be getting pleasure from it.
 
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hedda

Re: 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Jim wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
hedda wrote:
how can anyone defend themselves from such an historic accusation ?

Everyone has accidentally brushed against a breast or penis so we might as well give ourselves up to police now and have done with it.


Don't be silly. It's not sexual if you didn't obtain any pleasure from it.

What puzzles me is why whether you obtained pleasure from it should be the tenuous thread from which hangs the question of whether it destroyed the touched one's life.

That was a very ungainly sentence, but I hope you know what I mean.


I accidently brushed up against that Canadian actor from Star Wars in the loo at the Sydney Planet Hollywood and the following day read that he was the new Luke Skywalker and did actually feel quite a thrill.

should I await a knock on the door ?
 
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#102123
Tuppenceworth

Re: 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
[b]Jim wrote:[b]
What puzzles me is why whether you obtained pleasure from it should be the tenuous thread from which hangs the question of whether it destroyed the touched one's life.
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You mean thoughtcrime, Jim?
 
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#102130
Jim

Re: 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
There's something called "mens rea", legal term meaning "guilty mind". So you are only guilty of the crime if you possessed direct intention to commit it.

But what puzzles me is the idea that someone should be devastated and have their life destroyed only if the act was accompanied by a direct intention to obtain sexual pleasure, yet the same act causes no harm without such intention. How can harm done depend on mens rea?
 
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