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#102327
comrade hedda

Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
www.theweek.co.uk/politics/55136/ed-mili...tm_source=newsletter

Ed Miliband is heading for No 10 whether people like him or not

New poll of Conservative marginals adds to growing belief that Labour can win an outright majority
BY Don Brind LAST UPDATED AT 09:22 ON Mon 16 Sep 2013

IT IS fanciful in the extreme to compare Ed Miliband with Barack Obama. Miliband is no orator: he succeeded in blocking David Cameron's Syria initiative despite a poor speech in the preceding Commons debate. His address to the TUC last week was similarly underwhelming.

But Miliband is doing what Obama did - he is winning in the right places.
 
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#102329
In The Know

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Read it, hedda ... don't build your hopes !

The "switch" by some Tories to the fruit-bat UKIP will disintegrate as soon as the election is announced.

UKIP have NO SEATS - they cannot deliver anything !

(Did you also notice - same poll - that Labour have had NO direct impact on these same seats?)
 
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#102330
In The Know

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
You also "forgot" to include this bit, hedda !

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Whether the Labour gloom persists will depend on how Miliband handles two key events: his party conference speech in just over a week's time and the boldness (or otherwise) of his widely flagged Shadow Cabinet reshuffle.

Miliband may turn out to be a terrible Prime Minister, which according to the polls is what a majority of voters expect.

Read more: www.theweek.co.uk/politics/55136/ed-mili...or-not#ixzz2f46w4HZi
 
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#102335
Isaiah Berlin

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Yes, his opportunism, his cynicism, his hopeless lack of ideas, and his stunningly inept oratorical skills make this man a brilliant candidate.

 
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#102337
In The Know

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Did you miss this post, hedda?

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Jeremy Clarkson has "hinted" that he may stand as an Independent at Doncaster North (where he is from originally) - Silliband's own seat !

Silliband only has a 10,000 majority ... so who knows?
 
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#102339
Pattaya

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Isaiah Berlin wrote:
Yes, his opportunism, his cynicism, his hopeless lack of ideas, and his stunningly inept oratorical skills make this man a brilliant candidate.



Eye eye?
 
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#102341
hedda

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
the growth of 'personality politics' where half the population appear consumed by how a candidate looks and speaks rather than what policies he/she may introduce.

weird, Even weirder, they seem proud to advertise their ignorance.
 
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#102349
In The Know

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
they seem proud to advertise their ignorance.

I have to concede that point to you, hedda.

I am ignorant of what the Silliband thinks, partly because he does not know that himself yet (the Unions haven't told him), and partly because even if he did know he would not be able to communicate it in an understandable and comprehensible way.
 
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#102445
In The Know (as always)

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
comrade hedda wrote:
Ed Miliband is heading for No 10 whether people like him or not


... are you sure, hedda ?

David Cameron's Conservatives have pulled level with the opposition Labour party for the first time in 18 months, according to a YouGov poll published on Thursday, as the economy shows signs of recovery.

The poll puts both parties on 36 percent of the vote shortly before each hosts its annual conference to set out election strategy ahead of a 2015 national vote. The last time the two parties were level was in February 2012, YouGov said.

uk.reuters.com/article/2013/09/19/uk-bri...dUKBRE98I09720130919
 
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#102453
Thomas Paine

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
I think you'll find 'personality politics' has been around since - at least - the eighteenth century. Look at Hogarth and Gillray political caricatures, look at the writing about Robert Walpole, look at the coverage of Disraeli and Gladstone. Look, for god's sake, at Thatcher. Tony Benn, bizarrely, used to keep bleating about the cult of personality, whilst owing part of his own success to the cult of his own personality. Politics isn't The Voice. You don't spin round at the last minute and find that eco-warrior or free market evangelist whom you chose is a small portly bloke with a boss eye and a stutter. Politics isn't just about ideas, it's also about the people who have to try to put them into practice, and communicate with the public. How Miliband, or anyone else, speaks, acts and reacts is also important. And frankly he's out of his depth on every level - ideas, judgement, integrity and communication skills. Aaronovich was quite right: he's a very sinister opportunist.
 
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#102456
hedda

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
In The Know (as always) wrote:
comrade hedda wrote:
Ed Miliband is heading for No 10 whether people like him or not


... are you sure, hedda ?

David Cameron's Conservatives have pulled level with the opposition Labour party for the first time in 18 months, according to a YouGov poll published on Thursday, as the economy shows signs of recovery.

The poll puts both parties on 36 percent of the vote shortly before each hosts its annual conference to set out election strategy ahead of a 2015 national vote. The last time the two parties were level was in February 2012, YouGov said.

uk.reuters.com/article/2013/09/19/uk-bri...dUKBRE98I09720130919


bascially I don't give a f**k
 
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#102463
In The Know

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
bascially I don't give a f**k

Oh, yes you do !

Otherwise, why START this thread all about it?
 
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#102464
Nigel Dempster

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hedda is a bascist!
 
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#102470
Ed Sillibrand

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years, 10 Months ago  
Nigel Dempster wrote:
Hedda is a bascist!

Nigel Dempster is dead.
 
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#117183
In The Know (as always)

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years ago  
Isaiah Berlin wrote:




Policy Chief Hits Out At Miliband's Leadership

Labour's policy chief slams the party's leadership for ignoring major reforms in favour of "cynical nuggets of policy".

news.sky.com/story/1291420/policy-chief-...milibands-leadership
 
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#117198
Pattaya

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years ago  
In The Know (as always) wrote:
Isaiah Berlin wrote:




Policy Chief Hits Out At Miliband's Leadership

Labour's policy chief slams the party's leadership for ignoring major reforms in favour of "cynical nuggets of policy".

news.sky.com/story/1291420/policy-chief-...milibands-leadership


....A cereal offender?...or a load of Balls?

 
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#117214
Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 11 Years ago  
Pattaya wrote:
Isaiah Berlin wrote:
Yes, his opportunism, his cynicism, his hopeless lack of ideas, and his stunningly inept oratorical skills make this man a brilliant candidate.



Eye eye?


Reminds me of someone...

 
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#123235
In The Know (as always)

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 10 Years, 8 Months ago  
Over a year ago, In The Know (as always) wrote:
comrade hedda wrote:
Ed Miliband is heading for No 10 whether people like him or not


... are you sure, hedda ?


 
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#123313
Pattaya

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 10 Years, 8 Months ago  
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2825717...der-s-seat-2015.html

Looks like Danny Alexander will be heading for the nearest dole office...along with all but one of his Looney Lib Northern colleges!
 
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#123318
hedda

Re:Ed headed for No 10 (don't tell ITK) 10 Years, 8 Months ago  
quite apart from the politics- and anyone who doesn't vote on policy is stupid...Ed comes across as a Thoroughly Decent Bloke/

But I cannot concern myself with the UK no more- I have a London born (Marble Arch- nowhere down market) Brain Battered ( Blue at Oxford) Mad Monk Tony Abbott (who I do believe is as nutty as a fruitcake and I'm sure Rupert Murdoch agrees) to unseat.
 
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