Terry Wogan is the latest celeb to come out and say he knew all the rumours, looking at the comments
section below the article he hasn't done himself any favours.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terry-woga...jimmy-savile-2341936

So why didn't Wiggy report it?

Ouch!

"Mr Wogan you have a charmed life ,other than kissing the Blarney Stone and having the luck of the Irish your talent is smaller than an Amoeba on Saturn."

lol. Quite! He certainly misjudged that one, didn't he.

Silly old fool. Defending Stuart Hall who pleaded guilty (which isn't to say I believe he WAS though!) and slagging SJS who has no chance of defence...
Always bear in mind all of these old broadcaster are fearing being falsely accused themselves - all of them.

not one single supportive comment !!

as for Jean Rook..what a nasty old piece of goods she was.

He's a great broadcaster and if you read beneath the tabloid spin he said pretty much what any decent person from that era would have said about such a figure. Lazy knee-jerk reactions are as unhelpful among the anti-witchhunt brigade as they are on the side of the pro.

Jim wrote:
Ouch!

"Mr Wogan you have a charmed life ,other than kissing the Blarney Stone and having the luck of the Irish your talent is smaller than an Amoeba on Saturn."

lol. Quite! He certainly misjudged that one, didn't he.

What's your talent, Jim, apart from posting stupid posts on the internet?

Savile was a slimeball and Wogan gets the flak. What an attitude.

The word is this "exclusive" from Tosspot's co-conspirators on the Mirror is misquotes from another more extensive interview he gave to a broadsheet. I note Tosspot's been stirring up anti-BBC hatred about the article too, no doubt hoping TW will get "Roached".

In other news, that snake Meirion Jones has started to hiss about JS on Twatter

hedda wrote:
not one single supportive comment !!

as for Jean Rook..what a nasty old piece of goods she was.

She always was, never had a good thing to say about anything.

I've always said that I didn't like Savile, both his TV demeanour and what my family said about how he was 'off air' when they tried to get him involved in a charitable thing in Leeds.

That doesn't mean I think he's a nonce, a paedo, whatever you want to call it. If he touched a girl inappropriately once, then that's disgusting, but I cannot go with this 'hundreds and hundreds' thing or the Officer Dribble nonsense.

Any decent person would keep their mouths shut. They all go on about rumours. What are rumours? You heard rumours at school. Like various teachers being queer or female teachers being lesbians. The matter of fact is nobody ever really knew if they were or not.

The same can be said of Jimmy Savile. Nobody ever knew or ever will know.

What Terry Wogan, Rantzen or that Gambamacaroni fella knew, was as much as everyone else. Sod all. 3 washed out people, with time on their hands. Perhaps they should be out there, rounding up some criminals who can be proved of their crimes?!

All that's happen is, you've got people making money on it, but still nobody knows the answers or ever will, as nothing will ever be proven. If they couldn't get the bottle to accuse, when he was still alive, then they should keep it that way. The here & all of it, is the man is dead & that is where it should stop. Why waste time, just to make a bit of free cash & get your name in the news? They should shut their gobs & get out & live a bit.

I'm more annoyed at people not knowing how solicitors/lawyers recommend those accused plead guilty, whether they are or not. And I can see Rolf Harris going down the same route. If you are not guilty, don't flipping plead guilty, just to save time!

bh wrote:
Nobody ever knew or ever will know.


Sorry, but that's just bollocks.

Euclid T Fnarrson wrote:
bh wrote:
Nobody ever knew or ever will know.


Sorry, but that's just bollocks.
Excuse me. No need to be so rude, sir. Tell me the, who did "know"? Or are you just here, to argue about nothing, without anything intelligent to say?

If you talk to various people (such as those that did actually speak to the man)they will all tell now, how they never saw anything. So, who are these invisible know alls? I've not come across one. I have (however) come across stone throwers (such as the ex=crackheead Johnnie Walker) also telling about these "rumours". A court doesn't go by rumours, you need evidence & there is no evidence. 65,000 people in the UK & only 450 have actually supposebly been "attack". If that is so, why didn't they bring charges, when he was still alive? Savile was not the KIng Of England. He was just a two bit TV & Radio presenter (that could draw an audience) & Radio presenter, like most are.

John Pericles wrote:
Savile was a slimeball and Wogan gets the flak. What an attitude.

correction : Jimmy Savile has become a 'slimeball' since one year after his death but in reality he was loved by millions of people during his lifetime.

that is the power of one dodgy TV program that got every media outlet singing from the same song sheet.

The Nazi Party had to start it's own newspapers to get the same result and threaten other editors.
I know, I know but fuck Godwins Law- a vicious plot to prevent anyone pointing out fascism as it rears it's ugly head.

Tim wrote:
Jim wrote:
Ouch!

"Mr Wogan you have a charmed life ,other than kissing the Blarney Stone and having the luck of the Irish your talent is smaller than an Amoeba on Saturn."

lol. Quite! He certainly misjudged that one, didn't he.

What's your talent, Jim, apart from posting stupid posts on the internet?

Thanks for having me, Tim. I'm glad to be with you.

hedda wrote:
John Pericles wrote:
Savile was a slimeball and Wogan gets the flak. What an attitude.

correction : Jimmy Savile has become a 'slimeball' since one year after his death but in reality he was loved by millions of people during his lifetime.



Correction: Simply untrue. He was not 'loved' by millions. It makes for a neat and lazily manipulative hack-style contrast but it just isn't right. He hosted programmes that were popular and some loved, but HE wasn't loved. He struck many as a cold, strangely insincere and self-advertising figure, and others as either a mildly amusing or creepy eccentric. But 'loved'? And by 'millions'? Absolutely not.

Erine Quilty wrote:
hedda wrote:
John Pericles wrote:
Savile was a slimeball and Wogan gets the flak. What an attitude.

correction : Jimmy Savile has become a 'slimeball' since one year after his death but in reality he was loved by millions of people during his lifetime.



Correction: Simply untrue. He was not 'loved' by millions. It makes for a neat and lazily manipulative hack-style contrast but it just isn't right. He hosted programmes that were popular and some loved, but HE wasn't loved. He struck many as a cold, strangely insincere and self-advertising figure, and others as either a mildly amusing or creepy eccentric. But 'loved'? And by 'millions'? Absolutely not.

I completely agree. I think the original media myth was that he was really popular. I grew up when he was establishing himself on TV and I've never encountered anyone who liked him. Never. No one said 'Oh great, it's Savile on TOTP - whoopee!' No, you watched TOTP because it was TOTP, and you put up with Savile while noting how he didn't seem to give a toss about the music. He was at best an irritating distraction. Did that inspire love? No it didn't.

In the same way, Jim'll Fix It was a great format - it had great features - but the low point was always Savile, talking to the kids as if he hated their guts and generally sounding cold and smug. As for the charity events, well, it seemed a redeeming feature, but did his brash, egotistical manner while doing them make you love him? No.

It was the tabloids who conspired with him to do all the 'much loved national treasure Jim' hype. That didn't come from the public. Where's the evidence of this national love? It doesn't exist.

All you have are the shows. And when Theroux did his doc on Savile, the fascination was trying to see why he seemed so weird and unpleasant, not any alarm at this 'loved' man being traduced. Go and look back at the reviews.

None of this, on its own, justified the posthumous false accusations and the anti-BBC inspired media hysteria, of course, but let's not create a new myth. Most people laughed at Savile, not with him, and if any really did love him, well, god knows what cave they hid in, because it sure as hell wasn't a widespread phenomenon.

I have to say that for me it is incredibly positive thinking to still believe in Sir Jimmy Savile's innocence. When a few people come forward and claim that they were also victims of a recently arrested celebrity I think it is right and proper to treat anything they claim with suspicion until there is proof. In Sir Jimmy's case, however, we are not talking of a few people we are talking of HUNDREDS and while I can easily believe that not all of the claims are genuine I cannot believe that 450 people all saying the same thing about the same man can all be liars.

I am a believer in the adage that we are all made up of good and evil and I have noticed over the years that the more capacity a person has to do either good or evil so their alter ego will at some point take over and force them to do something to redress part of the imbalance. I do not for a second believe that Sir Jimmy did all the charity work he did just for sexual reasons but he was an oddball who found personal one to one relationships difficult (if not impossible) by all accounts...

I do agree with those here who say that until evidence to support a conviction in a court of law can be produced a living person should be thought of as innocent but when somebody has passed all we are left with is the option to decide for ourselves whether or not they were guilty as charged. Sadly, for me (and I liked Sir Jimmy's wacky persona in life) I think it 95% certain (al least) that at least some of the alleged allegations against him are true.

People can be incredibly spineless sometimes and many (who later cry foul) simply do and say nothing at the time because 'its easier' not to. All in all, I guess this means we live in a pretty sorry community these days, doesn't it?

Tony May wrote:
I have to say that for me it is incredibly positive thinking to still believe in Sir Jimmy Savile's innocence. When a few people come forward and claim that they were also victims of a recently arrested celebrity I think it is right and proper to treat anything they claim with suspicion until there is proof. In Sir Jimmy's case, however, we are not talking of a few people we are talking of HUNDREDS and while I can easily believe that not all of the claims are genuine I cannot believe that 450 people all saying the same thing about the same man can all be liars.

I am a believer in the adage that we are all made up of good and evil and I have noticed over the years that the more capacity a person has to do either good or evil so their alter ego will at some point take over and force them to do something to redress part of the imbalance. I do not for a second believe that Sir Jimmy did all the charity work he did just for sexual reasons but he was an oddball who found personal one to one relationships difficult (if not impossible) by all accounts...

I do agree with those here who say that until evidence to support a conviction in a court of law can be produced a living person should be thought of as innocent but when somebody has passed all we are left with is the option to decide for ourselves whether or not they were guilty as charged. Sadly, for me (and I liked Sir Jimmy's wacky persona in life) I think it 95% certain (al least) that at least some of the alleged allegations against him are true.

People can be incredibly spineless sometimes and many (who later cry foul) simply do and say nothing at the time because 'its easier' not to. All in all, I guess this means we live in a pretty sorry community these days, doesn't it?



Well I don't doubt that Saville was a bit of an old lech, it wasn't uncommon for his generation. Also I don't think that he was a dangerous rapist. He may have had sex with girls who felt that they ought to have sex with him, or who have regretted it afterwards, however that is not rape.
Whether he came onto them and they said F**k Off and he continued, I seriously doubt it. I'm sure that they would have reported this almost immediately. Even Karen Ward said that she didn't see it as abuse at the time. No doubt with Mr Williams-Thomas egging her on she was unencouraged to believe that it was.