Surrey Police have published their interview with Jimmy Savile from 2009. Interesting reading, considering the allegations which came later.

www.surrey.police.uk/tabid/2980/InfoItemId/197/Default.aspx

Interesting. I'd just heard the non news story on Sky News. Where they basically said that Jimmy had denied it all.

But reading the interview, it sounds all feasible. The blackmail letters, the fact Christmas is coming....All leading to the fact that a few nutty borstal kids (now adults) wanted some extra cash. But half-baked ex-Constables (as bad as these borstal kids) also wanted some extra cash & it was October, too!

Just what we've been saying all along, but the general public can't see & have been brainwashed by media moguls on the trail to make some more money for themselves. A set up job, now set in stone to destroy a dead man's reputation. Made out of chinese whispers & rumour, that was probably ballshit right from the start.

and they produce ???...precisely nothing.

but they certainly have the Mail writhing in excitement. The fact that Savile sounds so casual in them indicates a man who is sure he is innocent rather than the opposite- yet the media would have us believe that now implies 'cockiness' and an ability to wrap the coppers around his fingers.

yet the reason eh wasn't charged..duhhh..there were no 'victims' who would give evidence.

I get the feeling that many involved in this are building a vast list of enemies such as police who are being blamed for nothing.

It seems the fantasy will not go away : that Jimmy was soooo powerful he was untouchable. Hogwash, rubbish, lunacy as the owner of this website could testify..just as famous, just as connected and charged years before Savile was questioned as have many rich and connected have before.

The Savile Affair will open the floodgates : any dead person now with any sort of substantial estate is now fodder for false claims after they die. Relatives now risk debilitating claims against their dear old dad's estate.

the precedent has been set.

I can see nothing in these interviews which would have persuaded the Police or CPS to initiate charges. On the contrary, JS answers all the questions with plausible answers, especially the fact that it would have been difficult / impossible for him to be alone with these girls. Interesting that the Home was actually a borstal!

You must check out Anna Raccoon's blog Gnomo; she was actually at Duncroft in the 60s and her revelations about the claims are extraordinary.

Seems now, the loonies think that a detective in Yorkshire intervened in the 2009 affair!

Will nobody with an ounce of sense (outside our point of view) get the guts to say "Hang on a minute. The things mentioned in this interview could ring true. Borstals, Nuthouses etc...No normal person would be in one of these places & people in them are in Fairyland anyway. So, how could you believe what anyone said? As, they are mentally deficient".

Nobody has the guts to say the truth in a media hole. Need a group to get together. Racoon & everyone need to make another documentary putting the boot on the other foot & also putting put MWT's true credentials. The programme could be shown on Channel 5. Anyone up for it?

What really really really annoys me about the whole Jimmy Savile episode is that just because 500 people or whatever claim JS assaulted them, then by virtue of the number making these claims it absolutely must be true.

For gods sake, thousands and thousands of people claim to have been abducted by aliens.

So by the same reasoning does this mean alien space craft are genuinely landing and taking off pretty much all of the time????

bh wrote:
Seems now, the loonies think that a detective in Yorkshire intervened in the 2009 affair!

Will nobody with an ounce of sense (outside our point of view) get the guts to say "Hang on a minute. The things mentioned in this interview could ring true. Borstals, Nuthouses etc...No normal person would be in one of these places & people in them are in Fairyland anyway. So, how could you believe what anyone said? As, they are mentally deficient".

Nobody has the guts to say the truth in a media hole. Need a group to get together. Racoon & everyone need to make another documentary putting the boot on the other foot & also putting put MWT's true credentials. The programme could be shown on Channel 5. Anyone up for it?

Its a great idea, although some of the most "normal" people I know have been through Borstal.

bh wrote:
Seems now, the loonies think that a detective in Yorkshire intervened in the 2009 affair!

Will nobody with an ounce of sense (outside our point of view) get the guts to say "Hang on a minute. The things mentioned in this interview could ring true. Borstals, Nuthouses etc...No normal person would be in one of these places & people in them are in Fairyland anyway. So, how could you believe what anyone said? As, they are mentally deficient".

Nobody has the guts to say the truth in a media hole. Need a group to get together. Racoon & everyone need to make another documentary putting the boot on the other foot & also putting put MWT's true credentials. The programme could be shown on Channel 5. Anyone up for it?

It is views like these which will provide ammunition to the NSPCC etc. Just because someone has been to a borstal, it doesn't mean that they are open to abuse or that all allegations are false. You could turn this around and say that Saville may have targetted borstal girls (troubled girls) because he knew that his word would be taken over theirs. None of us will ever know the truth of this matter.

Walter wrote:
What really really really annoys me about the whole Jimmy Savile episode is that just because 500 people or whatever claim JS assaulted them, then by virtue of the number making these claims it absolutely must be true.

For gods sake, thousands and thousands of people claim to have been abducted by aliens.

So by the same reasoning does this mean alien space craft are genuinely landing and taking off pretty much all of the time????
Great point.

Look at it this way....million of people have been in some "special" school or similar & most of the 500 that "imagined" being assaulted probably weren't because they are not compus mentus to appear in a court to give evidence anyway.

500 is a small number. Why there are 65 million people in the UK. 500 is nothing compared to that. 500 nutters? I think so.

And the 2009 business. What was stopping those girls/women/nutcases (or whatever) taking Jimmy Savile to court? Either they were told to drop it, or couldn't fork out legal fees. So, they should of "forked" off!

And isn't it appalling, shocking, almost beyond belief that amongst those hundreds of abused victims, not one - NOT ONE - cared enough about protecting other innocent children to complain - anonymously - to Childline?

Every single one of them should be horrified by their cowardice. Nobody knowing who they were - yet they all - every one - chose to remain silent whilst he was roaming the country assaulting vulnerable and disabled kiddies?

Quite utterly extraordinary.

And what a shame that, in the whole country, there wasn't one honest honourable police officer who decided to break ranks, leak the fact that their bosses were all being paid off, and make that one anonymous call to Childline.

Everybody knew yet nobody said anything - at no risk to themselves?

Bizarre.

Walter wrote:
What really really really annoys me about the whole Jimmy Savile episode is that just because 500 people or whatever claim JS assaulted them, then by virtue of the number making these claims it absolutely must be true.

For gods sake, thousands and thousands of people claim to have been abducted by aliens.

So by the same reasoning does this mean alien space craft are genuinely landing and taking off pretty much all of the time????


Must be...

robbiex wrote:
bh wrote:
Seems now, the loonies think that a detective in Yorkshire intervened in the 2009 affair!

Will nobody with an ounce of sense (outside our point of view) get the guts to say "Hang on a minute. The things mentioned in this interview could ring true. Borstals, Nuthouses etc...No normal person would be in one of these places & people in them are in Fairyland anyway. So, how could you believe what anyone said? As, they are mentally deficient".

Nobody has the guts to say the truth in a media hole. Need a group to get together. Racoon & everyone need to make another documentary putting the boot on the other foot & also putting put MWT's true credentials. The programme could be shown on Channel 5. Anyone up for it?

It is views like these which will provide ammunition to the NSPCC etc. Just because someone has been to a borstal, it doesn't mean that they are open to abuse or that all allegations are false. You could turn this around and say that Saville may have targetted borstal girls (troubled girls) because he knew that his word would be taken over theirs. None of us will ever know the truth of this matter.


They could and that is what they have been doing, but I am honestly, genuinely sceptical that a man in Jimmy Savile's position would have to resort to scouring institutions for those purposes. I'm sure it seems likely that he may have cheekily flirted with the teenage girls there, because to be honest, even when I was in my teens that sort of thing was not uncommon, and simply viewed as a bit of a laugh, which would have been how it would probably have been intended...

Sometimes organisations that are supposed to look after the vulnerable are do-gooders trying to look for things that aren't happening. I think there are far to many so called "do-gooders" acting on behalf of others looking for trouble for troubles sake.

I think this will be my last remark on Jimmy Savile. I don't imagine that he did half of what has been pushed by media. I don't reckon any of his actions involved boys. He (apparently) did not like gay people. So, could not of been that way inclined. Neither do I imagine, he ever had unconsented sex with any girl. At the most he may well of had sex, with a few 15 year olds. Whether he knew their age or not, is another matter. Pedo? I think not. An exaggerated word in modern society, like the over usage of the word "racist" in media & various other words.

I'm more concerened about the amount of swearing coming from TV comedians & the foul language coming out of teenagers mouths in public, like on buses, at bus stops & in the street in general. Come back Mary Whitehouse, not daft over seeing do-gooders like Ofcom & all that nonsense. If they were acting on the behalf of such teenagers, then the'd ban the sell of "singers" in records, that swear all the time, to sell their hits. It's unneeded & a real downfall of society. Imagine going out & buying Beatles record, because John Lennon said words like "fuck", "dhit" & "dick". The only dicks out, are the ones making these foul records, every week.

bh wrote:
Sometimes organisations that are supposed to look after the vulnerable are do-gooders trying to look for things that aren't happening. I think there are far to many so called "do-gooders" acting on behalf of others looking for trouble for troubles sake.

I think you've absolutely hit the nail on the head with that comment.

I don't believe or disbelieve the headlines about Operation Yewtree, its probably a mixture of truth, exageration, and lies.

However why is it that Saville got around 450 complaints, whereas DlT only got about a dozen, Freddie Starr got a couple, and Gary Glitter (surely the easiest target of all) only has one complaint against him as far as we know.

Speaking of headlines - yesterdays Sun printed the punchline to a 50 year old joke and it was debated by "investigated journalists"in the media all day as to who, what, where, why.

If that doesn't spell it out - P.I.S.S.T.A.K.E. - I don't know what will.

This country is fucked.

robbiex wrote:
I don't believe or disbelieve the headlines about Operation Yewtree, its probably a mixture of truth, exageration, and lies.

However why is it that Saville got around 450 complaints, whereas DlT only got about a dozen, Freddie Starr got a couple, and Gary Glitter (surely the easiest target of all) only has one complaint against him as far as we know.

A mixture of trawling, advertising and spin. All this talk of 'inquiries', 'the BBC, Home office and local authorities' possibilily facing 'legal' action by Elizabeth Dux right at the beginning on that "Panorama What the BBC knew" programme and she was most likely trawling for 'victims' before that on the internet etc. This talk of suing 'Savile's estate'.

The extra hysteria there was around him as apposed to the others because he is dead and he can't sue. The accusers won't even have to look at the reaction in his face.

Copy cat's, safety in number's, that's why I think there have been infinitely more accusations against Jimmy Savile than anyone else. The whole thing is a conspiracy and a set up as far as Jimmy Savile is concerned imo...

Typical outrage as usual on the Jim'll Fix It friendsreunited page
www.friendsreunited.co.uk/jim-fixed-it-f...16-a36c-9ffe00d3d39d