As we see European leaders "horrified" that their phones have been tapped, I feel rather as I felt over the hysteria about celebrity hacking, Leveson and all the fuss... can any celebrity or politician ever have doubted the leakability of communication?

I've been famous for almost 50 years. I'd never have said anything I wanted confidential on the phone, put it on paper or, recently, said it online.

What's the fuss about? Assume, whether intentional or accidental, that if you broadcast it, people will hear it. even speaking in public places needs to be discreet. Basic common sense.

It's the usual hypocrisy !

They are all "in favour" of general snooping and phone tapping (security etc they all howl !) BUT when it happens to them its a very different story LOL!

In The Know wrote:
when it happens to them its a very different story

Them - as you put it, are the 35 most powerful/wealthy countries in the world, barr one.

About a sixth of all countries and mostly Allies!

Being constantly and closely monitored (in ways and methods, unknown to anyone) by the most powerful, the USA.

If you consider that unworthy of further questioning/analysis/investigation - so be it.


Many of us, however, want to know what's been happening - in minute and graphic detail.

Detractors of Assage and Snowden have become surprisingly mute.......

It now seems that these guys were just passing on the facts.


Before and until US spooks and military get their hands on them.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24663215

Madeleine Albright says France spied on her

They all do it,and they all deserve each other

And surely we all knew it, including those now expressing outrage and spending time, effort and cash on this silly subject; I suppose they will set up a commission or inquiry to look into it; which will cost millions. Perhaps Brian Leveson might be free to chair it. That'll sort them.

NSA (UK branch) help 35 US embassies to spy.


www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477684...s-whistleblower.html


A lot more to come - including details of GCHQ's role.

Ben 12 wrote:
A lot more to come - including details of GCHQ's role.


www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/gchq-fe...r-leaks-8905927.html



Human Rights Act challenges now inevitable

A can of worms which will be open for years

With many familiar faces involved, worldwide



The Yorkshire and Gloucestershire hubs will be central and critical

But, I can't see the Pentagon or the mysterious Area 54 being too forthcoming

However, US embassy activities will soon bear a lot of scrutiny

JK2006 wrote:
As we see European leaders "horrified" that their phones have been tapped, I feel rather as I felt over the hysteria about celebrity hacking, Leveson and all the fuss... can any celebrity or politician ever have doubted the leakability of communication?

I've been famous for almost 50 years. I'd never have said anything I wanted confidential on the phone, put it on paper or, recently, said it online.

What's the fuss about? Assume, whether intentional or accidental, that if you broadcast it, people will hear it. even speaking in public places needs to be discreet. Basic common sense.


It is common sense, but unfortunately we now have idiot teachers who can't even teach this to teenagers these days. They seem to have absolutely no awareness that their tweets, facebook posts etc are easy to access by anyone. And everything these days, from the media too the law, is geared to indulge the stupidity of the population.