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#106020
Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
Sorry ITK I actually think getting someone else to do your killing for you is even worse than doing it yourself.
 
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#106032
In The Know

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
I think you are wrong, JK - just as you are wrong about Syria.

You don't want any more innocents to die (in Syria) - but by sitting on your hands and doing nothing you are ensuring that it WILL happen.

By being soft on sadistic thugs we just encourage more of the same (as statistics since the death penalty was abolished, will show).

These people need to fear what will happen to them ... in the majority of cases it will hold them back.

I was reading of the case of Anthony Lingard today - he was executed for murder over 200 years ago. After his death his body was put in a gibbet and hung in a local field for several months (apart from when it was temporarily taken to Tideswell to be exhibited at the local fair !).

Today - over 200 years later - the field is still called Gibbet field.

Let them fear .... it's our best defence.
 
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#106035
In The Know

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
 
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#106042
Pattaya

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
Oooop, forgot the link -

www.derbyshireheritage.co.uk/Menu/Misc/P...ck-Wardlow-Mires.php


£53-18-8 for the Gibbeting?
 
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#106050
Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
It didn't deter Anthony Lingard then, even with the possibility of a bloody sound gibbeting as a final indignity. It appears not to deter lots of people in the U.S. too.

Keep capital punishment where it belongs. In the history books.
 
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#106053
Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
I think you are wrong, JK - just as you are wrong about Syria.

You don't want any more innocents to die (in Syria) - but by sitting on your hands and doing nothing you are ensuring that it WILL happen.

By being soft on sadistic thugs we just encourage more of the same (as statistics since the death penalty was abolished, will show).

These people need to fear what will happen to them ... in the majority of cases it will hold them back.

I was reading of the case of Anthony Lingard today - he was executed for murder over 200 years ago. After his death his body was put in a gibbet and hung in a local field for several months (apart from when it was temporarily taken to Tideswell to be exhibited at the local fair !).

Today - over 200 years later - the field is still called Gibbet field.

Let them fear .... it's our best defence.


If creating a world where ruling by fear is the best thing you can suggest ITK maybe you should read a few books on Idi Armin, Colonel Ghaddafi or Saddam Hussain when you put down the Conservative party manifesto!

Just a thought...
 
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#106055
In The Know

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
Locked Out wrote:
[color=#004080]It didn't deter Anthony Lingard then, even with the possibility of a bloody sound gibbeting as a final indignity. It appears not to deter lots of people in the U.S.

Good point, LO
 
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#106057
Ben 8

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
We don't need the advice of 'derbyshire heritage' on this matter!

Mass murderers (9/11 etc.) put themselves outside any normal logic or consideration.

They couldn't care less who or how many they kill.

But our justice should be humane - a word Saddam never heard.



 
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#106065
hedda

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
Ben 8 wrote:
We don't need the advice of 'derbyshire heritage' on this matter!

Mass murderers (9/11 etc.) put themselves outside any normal logic or consideration.

They couldn't care less who or how many they kill.

But our justice should be humane - a word Saddam never heard.





indeed the mass murderers who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Vietnam before are outside the law and lauded.
 
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#106072
Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
If dangerous criminals were kept in a safe place until they were safe to be released there would be no need to ask for them to be killed.
 
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#106079
In The Know (as always)

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
Tony May wrote:
If creating a world where ruling by fear is the best thing you can suggest ...

No - just returning to a world where people are safe,
where old people are not afraid to go on the streets,
where people had respect for others (and knew the consequences if they weren't)

The rule of law - not the jungle

Britain - as it used to be (at a time when we ruled the world etc)
 
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#106081
In The Know

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
Locked Out wrote:
It appears not to deter lots of people in the U.S.

Good point, LO



... or maybe not !!!

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Opponents will point out that the death penalty is practiced in the states with the highest murder rates. This is true, but it doesn’t mean that executions don’t work - it just means that they take place where they are needed most.

The states without the death penalty historically have lower than average levels of crime.

When the death penalty was suspended nationwide from 1968 to 1976, murder rates went through the roof - except in those states. When the ban was lifted, the states that reintroduced the death penalty saw an astonishing 38 per cent fall in their murder rate over twenty years. Indeed, there is a statistical relationship between the growth in executions and the decline in murder.

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/10...nfirm-that-it-works/
 
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#106110
In The Know

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
If dangerous criminals were kept in a safe place until they were safe to be released there would be no need to ask for them to be killed.

Over 30 killers killed again after being freed from prison between 2000/1 and 2010/11, statistics show.

Figures released by the Home Office show 29 people with homicide convictions went on to commit murder and six went on to commit manslaughter.

Of those 29 murderers, 13 previously committed murder and 16 manslaughter.

The government says it does all it can to protect the public from offenders "but sadly risk can never be eliminated entirely" (*).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16638227

Note - This is just in last 10 years !

(*) With my solution it can LOL !!!!!
 
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#106114
Pattaya

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
Ben 8 wrote:
We don't need the advice of 'derbyshire heritage' on this matter!


Quite rice Uncle Ben
Sorry if mere mortals on this board get in the way of your highly intelligent replies.
 
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#106124
andrew

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
If dangerous criminals were kept in a safe place until they were safe to be released there would be no need to ask for them to be killed.

Over 30 killers killed again after being freed from prison between 2000/1 and 2010/11, statistics show.

Figures released by the Home Office show 29 people with homicide convictions went on to commit murder and six went on to commit manslaughter.

Of those 29 murderers, 13 previously committed murder and 16 manslaughter.

The government says it does all it can to protect the public from offenders "but sadly risk can never be eliminated entirely" (*).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16638227

Note - This is just in last 10 years !

Stop reading BBC ITK.

(*) With my solution it can LOL !!!!!
 
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#106338
Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
maybe you should read a few books on Idi Armin, Colonel Ghaddafi or Saddam Hussain when you put down the Conservative party manifesto!
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#106502
andrew

Re:Totally against capital punishment... 11 Years, 7 Months ago  
You do know that Colonel Ghaddafi was killing and the Lockerbie bombing was set up by NATO, so was 9/11 ?
 
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