8 hours later and still no casualty details. I fear this is far worse than we realise.

I do hope (but am not holding my breath) that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked.

Fingers crossed for better news - my own suspicion is that the flat roof simply wasn't strong enough to hold the weight and we may see lower casualties than if there had been an explosion, fire etc.

But an examination of police behaviour is long overdue. I thought it would come in 2013, along with individual accountability after Hillsborough, Plebgate etc... but perhaps 2014 will see it kick in bigtime.

Gordon Smart (ex Sun Bizarre - aren't we all? - now Editor of the Scottish Sun) all over the news as an eye witness.

In The Know wrote:
when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked


Why do you always hope for worse news?

What on earth is 'Police Scotland' ???

This re-branding all started last year with Team GB.

I'm going to start my own by re-naming the NHS as Health UK ... and other readers have suggestions?

In The Know wrote:
What on earth is 'Police Scotland' ???

This re-branding all started last year with Team GB.

I'm going to start my own by re-naming the NHS as Health UK ... and other readers have suggestions?

Ben could join 'Team Badger'

JK2006 wrote:
Fingers crossed for better news - my own suspicion is that the flat roof simply wasn't strong enough to hold the weight and we may see lower casualties than if there had been an explosion, fire etc.

But an examination of police behaviour is long overdue. I thought it would come in 2013, along with individual accountability after Hillsborough, Plebgate etc... but perhaps 2014 will see it kick in bigtime.

Gordon Smart (ex Sun Bizarre - aren't we all? - now Editor of the Scottish Sun) all over the news as an eye witness.

Do you think a different roof might have had a different out come?

JK2006 wrote:
Fingers crossed for better news - my own suspicion is that the flat roof simply wasn't strong enough to hold the weight and we may see lower casualties than if there had been an explosion, fire etc.

But an examination of police behaviour is long overdue. I thought it would come in 2013, along with individual accountability after Hillsborough, Plebgate etc... but perhaps 2014 will see it kick in bigtime.

Gordon Smart (ex Sun Bizarre - aren't we all? - now Editor of the Scottish Sun) all over the news as an eye witness.

It's likely a very old building and the roof was probably very weak, I don't know whether that could sometimes be an advantage though because of less weight falling on people etc...?

I suppose most don't really expect a helicopter to go crashing in to such a small low down building, but they can crash anywhere.

Very shocking...

In The Know wrote:
What on earth is 'Police Scotland' ???

This re-branding all started last year with Team GB.

I'm going to start my own by re-naming the NHS as Health UK ... and other readers have suggestions?

Police Scotland is an amalgamation of all of Scotland's forces ITK. A cost cutting exercise by the SNP that was not popular. I think you may aporove!

Angel wrote:
Police Scotland is an amalgamation of all of Scotland's forces ITK. A cost cutting exercise by the SNP that was not popular. I think you may aporove!

I didn't know that ... why not just call them the police ????

Thanks, angel (hope all that reading of Mr Salmond's dossiers is not getting you down).

Angel wrote:
[quote]In The Know wrote:
What on earth is 'Police Scotland' ???

I've just found another one !!!

This article - news.sky.com/story/1175882/badger-cull-e...after-missing-target - refers to Natural England (wtf is that???)

No concern or interest (from ITK) in the 8 dead - or the 14 still seriously injured!

He's now more interested in the names given to organizations.

One wonders why he posted on the tragedy, at all.

In The Know wrote:


I do hope (but am not holding my breath) that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked

ITK classic rubbish

A boring old man trying to make his daily story - right or wrong

When he's wrong. Just changes the subject....

In The Know wrote:
8 hours later and still no casualty details. I fear this is far worse than we realise.

I do hope (but am not holding my breath) that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked.

Someone suggested to me a while ago that a lot of the time their flying about in these helicopters their looking out for people growing cannabis?

Anon wrote:
In The Know wrote:
I do hope (but am not holding my breath) that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked.

Someone suggested to me a while ago that a lot of the time their flying about in these helicopters their looking out for people growing cannabis?


... with heat-seeking lamps? Quite possible.

Whatever they were up to ... low flying over a city is a very dangerous thing to do (as has been demonstrated).

There are very few instances where this can be justified - ie risk vs result - so I repeat .... I do hope that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked.

In The Know wrote:
Anon wrote:
In The Know wrote:
I do hope (but am not holding my breath) that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked.

Someone suggested to me a while ago that a lot of the time their flying about in these helicopters their looking out for people growing cannabis?


... with heat-seeking lamps? Quite possible.

Whatever they were up to ... low flying over a city is a very dangerous thing to do (as has been demonstrated).

There are very few instances where this can be justified - ie risk vs result - so I repeat .... I do hope that when the reason for the police flying around, wasting our time and money, is finally revealed (at the inquiry?) we are not even more shocked.

Standing on top deck of a P&O boat in Dover this morning another police copter flew over the town.
Yes you do have to ask if all the flights are important.

In The Know wrote:

[/quote]Whatever they were up to ... low flying over a city is a very dangerous thing to do (as has been demonstrated).

There are very few instances where this can be justified[/quote]

Perhaps it just lost control and couldn't help where it ended up landing?

Anon wrote:

Perhaps it just lost control and couldn't help where it ended up landing?


Highly likely Anon. Probably mechanical failure.

Anon wrote:
In The Know wrote:

Whatever they were up to ... low flying over a city is a very dangerous thing to do (as has been demonstrated).

There are very few instances where this can be justified[/quote]

Perhaps it just lost control and couldn't help where it ended up landing? [/quote]

Indeed

But my point is what was so urgent / important that warrants low flying over busy built-up area in the first place?

Looking for people parked on double yellow line maybe ?

In The Know wrote:
Anon wrote:
In The Know wrote:

Whatever they were up to ... low flying over a city is a very dangerous thing to do (as has been demonstrated).

There are very few instances where this can be justified

Perhaps it just lost control and couldn't help where it ended up landing? [/quote]

Indeed

But my point is what was so urgent / important that warrants low flying over busy built-up area in the first place?

Looking for people parked on double yellow line maybe ?[/quote]

Probably people growing cannabis or some fugitive on the run...