I was approached by 2 policemen, both well mannered and behaved, who asked if they could speak to me.

Apparently there had been an "incident" at a local supermarket and some razor blades had been stolen. They had seen the CCTV and said I looked similar to the person involved. Did I know anything about it?

I told them I didn't and asked when this had happened (they didn't seem to know - or at least, would not say).

I then asked if I could see the photo, and converniently they did not have this on them !

They took my details and checked these on their radios. All fine. They then left saying they may contact me at a later date.

As this all happened in a street, it could have been very embarrassing.

On returning home I remembered that there is another branch of this same supermarket near to us, which I use often, so know it quite well. I know that at that branch they keep all razor blades behind the counter (so people can't get their hands on them).

I've now spoken to the supermarket's Head Office and also to the store (where the alleged incident is said to have happened).

The duty manager told me that (as far as he was aware) no such incident had happened in the last 2 weeks).

All very mysterious !

These two policemen are probably unaware that I know some very senior members of the local constabulary - and have passed the details to them.

Let's wait and see ..........

Most razor blades are in sealed boxes or tagged.

An Inspector has already mailed me and said he will look into this on Monday when he is back in the office.

An Inspector calls... just don't mention PLEBS.

JK2006 wrote:
... just don't mention PLEBS.


... or let them do a TV interview immediately after "a chat"?

You're sure they weren't looking for an aging Teddy boy with a flick blade?

Curious that.

You are not obliged to give your details unless you're under arrest, as I'm sure you know. Problem is, if you don't, they will most likely pretend they have cause to suspect you of possessing stolen or prohibited items and will then conduct a stop and search. As you say, it could get embarrassing. They will likely check your wallet for bank cards in case you have stolen any, don't you know. They are obliged to give you their names and numbers as soon as you request them after they start engaging with you and before they conduct any search. Always a good idea to have pen and paper ready for that. They don't like it one little bit when you start taking down their details. Sometimes they will grab the pen out of your hand and tell you that they fear it may be used as an offensive weapon, don't you know.

So all round, the police are very nice people who impartially apply our laws for the preservation of our liberty and only a cynic would suggest they would ever abuse any of the increasingly wide powers we have given them. (Isn't that right officer?).

Could be they made up the razor blade business and wanted to know who you were for some reason. Could just as easily be they were genuine and the store management don't have a record of whatever happened. I just don't know.

Jim wrote:
Curious that.

You are not obliged to give your details unless you're under arrest, as I'm sure you know. Problem is, if you don't, they will most likely pretend they have cause to suspect you of possessing stolen or prohibited items and will then conduct a stop and search. As you say, it could get embarrassing. They will likely check your wallet for bank cards in case you have stolen any, don't you know. They are obliged to give you their names and numbers as soon as you request them after they start engaging with you and before they conduct any search. Always a good idea to have pen and paper ready for that. They don't like it one little bit when you start taking down their details. Sometimes they will grab the pen out of your hand and tell you that they fear it may be used as an offensive weapon, don't you know.

So all round, the police are very nice people who impartially apply our laws for the preservation of our liberty and only a cynic would suggest they would ever abuse any of the increasingly wide powers we have given them. (Isn't that right officer?).

Could be they made up the razor blade business and wanted to know who you were for some reason. Could just as easily be they were genuine and the store management don't have a record of whatever happened. I just don't know.

I'm aware of not having to give details, Jim (wasn't it a case in Grimsby in 1956 that settled that?) - but thought, why not? - I certainly had nothing to hide.

Also correct that whatever "duty manager" I spoke to today (I have the name) may not be aware of this incident.

I also checked Derbyshire police website - where they DO show CCTV of people that they are looking for (dating back to July), and guess what? - no incident in the town I was in - and no mention of stolen razor blades !

www.derbyshire.police.uk/Caught-on-camera/CaughtOnCamera.aspx

As the police couldn't (or wouldn't) say when the incident happened, I took it that it was some time (days / weeks) ago, rather than today. Surely no one can "remember" a face for so long? That's why I asked to see the photograph, assuming that they would carry them around.

Have no doubt there will be a "story" by way of explanation - will have to wait till next week to find out.

On the other hand, this maybe attention seeking bullshit

By a bored OAP who is trying to establish his alibi


Why go into so much detail...about nothing?


As the Derbyshire Constabulary seeks;



- the Bolsover Bic Bandit

Yes, ITK will be found guilty of outrecuidance, self-importance syndrome and wasting police time.

How very dare the police talk to him?

In The Know wrote:
Jim wrote:
Curious that.

You are not obliged to give your details unless you're under arrest, as I'm sure you know. Problem is, if you don't, they will most likely pretend they have cause to suspect you of possessing stolen or prohibited items and will then conduct a stop and search. As you say, it could get embarrassing. They will likely check your wallet for bank cards in case you have stolen any, don't you know. They are obliged to give you their names and numbers as soon as you request them after they start engaging with you and before they conduct any search. Always a good idea to have pen and paper ready for that. They don't like it one little bit when you start taking down their details. Sometimes they will grab the pen out of your hand and tell you that they fear it may be used as an offensive weapon, don't you know.

So all round, the police are very nice people who impartially apply our laws for the preservation of our liberty and only a cynic would suggest they would ever abuse any of the increasingly wide powers we have given them. (Isn't that right officer?).

Could be they made up the razor blade business and wanted to know who you were for some reason. Could just as easily be they were genuine and the store management don't have a record of whatever happened. I just don't know.

I'm aware of not having to give details, Jim (wasn't it a case in Grimsby in 1956 that settled that?) - but thought, why not? - I certainly had nothing to hide.

Also correct that whatever "duty manager" I spoke to today (I have the name) may not be aware of this incident.

I also checked Derbyshire police website - where they DO show CCTV of people that they are looking for (dating back to July), and guess what? - no incident in the town I was in - and no mention of stolen razor blades !

www.derbyshire.police.uk/Caught-on-camera/CaughtOnCamera.aspx

As the police couldn't (or wouldn't) say when the incident happened, I took it that it was some time (days / weeks) ago, rather than today. Surely no one can "remember" a face for so long? That's why I asked to see the photograph, assuming that they would carry them around.

Have no doubt there will be a "story" by way of explanation - will have to wait till next week to find out.

you think that's bad,I'm up that way next week....lock your doors

Pattaya wrote:
you think that's bad,I'm up that way next week....lock your doors

You'll be very welcome (and will enjoy the stunning scenery) - just do me a favour when you get back tell everyone how horrible it is - we get far too many visitors already !

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
you think that's bad,I'm up that way next week....lock your doors

You'll be very welcome (and will enjoy the stunning scenery) - just do me a favour when you get back tell everyone how horrible it is - we get far too many visitors already !

Have to meet up for a spot of lunch

I bet those coppers are back in the canteen telling how they had a strange encounter with a mad Tory.

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
you think that's bad,I'm up that way next week....lock your doors

You'll be very welcome (and will enjoy the stunning scenery) - just do me a favour when you get back tell everyone how horrible it is - we get far too many visitors already !

Not immigrants ?

hedda wrote:
I bet those coppers are back in the canteen telling how they had a strange encounter with a mad Tory.

I can just imagine ITK preaching Major and Cameron to coppers.

hedda wrote:
I bet those coppers are back in the canteen telling how they had a strange encounter with a mad Tory.

They will be working out their apologies, after the Inspector quietly warned them NOT to get involved with me !

Mr Reason wrote:
www.hrcr.org/safrica/arrested_rights/Rice_Connolly.htm

Thanks, Mr Reason - I was right - it was a case in Grimsby but I was ten years out with the date - it was 1956 not 1966 as I thought.

andrew wrote:
Not immigrants ?

Do you mean day trippers from Manchester and South Yorkshire LOL ????