sadly Noo Labour followed the Tory example.

Ah, Tony Benn (he was my MP once you know !).

Used to have many a chat with him (he's teetotal and doesn't drink).

His wife (Caroline, sadly departed) was very nice too.

BUT .... Viscount Lord Stansgate knew where his best interests were and so pretends to be loony !

After all this time.

And still, the only ripost that raving Tory Boy "I'm All Right ITK" can offer is 'Loony'?

In The Know wrote:


BUT .... Viscount Lord Stansgate knew where his best interests were and so pretends to be loony !

yet there isn't a thing he says in that clip that is 'loony' in any way, rather very basic truths.

Such as the great working masses built the wealth of the UK as opposed to the weird and wacky beliefs of Thatcherism (and all who follow) in "theories" such as "market forces" and the insanity that private corporations can do things better than governments.

Tony is talking in the 80s and he has been proved correct time and time again.

hedda wrote:
Such as the great working masses built the wealth of the UK

... by shutting down the pits (through militancy)
... by shutting down British Leyland (and the entire car industry)
... by making unrealistic wage demands which priced jobs abroad
... by having millions of "strike days" - making manufacture unprofitable
... by wiping out the entire UK manufacturing industry (thank you, Unions !)

Yes - quite a contribution !

In The Know wrote:
he's teetotal and doesn't drink



He's teetotal AND he doesn't drink??? He must be parched!

"unrealistic" wage demands..to pay mortgages and survive ?

usually orange juice, dear !

In The Know wrote:
hedda wrote:
Such as the great working masses built the wealth of the UK

... by shutting down the pits (through militancy)
... by shutting down British Leyland (and the entire car industry)
... by making unrealistic wage demands which priced jobs abroad
... by having millions of "strike days" - making manufacture unprofitable
... by wiping out the entire UK manufacturing industry (thank you, Unions !)

Yes - quite a contribution !

Tories closed the pits.

If MPs get unrealistic salaries why can't the working man ?

My nan went went on strike, the company she worked for refused to have heating on. Ok for bosses to have cushy work environment.

Everyone has the right for protection at work, bosses will screw the employers over Unions are great.

I feel sorry for people who worked for ITK, must of been like working in a concentration camp.

In The Know wrote:
usually orange juice, dear !

He doesn't drink that either??? It must be hell being a teetotaler who doesn't drink. I suppose he has to sit and stare at his cuppa, watching helplessly as it slowly goes cold.

Quote military historians; "There are rarely bad soldiers, but often bad generals."

Quote business historians: "There are rarely bad workers, but often bad managers."

Fair Justice wrote:
Quote military historians; "There are rarely bad soldiers, but often bad generals."

Quote business historians: "There are rarely bad workers, but often bad managers."

I had managers who just left school they were totally out of their depth.

Unhappy managers make unhappy businesses and people will leave, then spend thousands recruiting and training all due to their attitude.