result predicted by many of us without having to be amazingly clever

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/right-to-b...d-ex-council-1743338

Great Tory housing shame: Third of ex-council homes now owned by rich landlords

What do you expect from Tories Hedda ?

Lunacy.

hedda wrote:
Third of ex-council homes now owned by rich landlords


Just goes to prove - no matter what they get - they can't look after it !

... and to think, we allow these people a vote !

Don't believe all you read, or read it with an objective mind.

The headline is skewed to the story that it was all a Tory scam to become rich? Well, look at the figures.........of the responding councils, 32% seem to be 'away' addresses , so probably rented out........that leaves 68%

This story is written with 'hindsight' and the conclusions are 'hindsight driven', but presented as fact

The headline could easily read (IF IT WASN'T THE MIRROR), two thirds of all right to buy properties are still in private individual hands, and have provided a working class rung on the property ladder to greater things...........NOW ISN'T IMPROVING YOURSELF FROM THE WORKING CLASS AND HAVING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY a central pillar of Trade Union and Labour aspriration?

Or do you just want the opportunities to be available to the few working class people who used to make it good through eductaion scholarships and patronage? This scheme, in its FULL INITIAL INTENTIONS was to allow an average Joe working class man in a manual job, but steady stable job, to buy a property and begin a previously unavailable journey into the higher social levels........

I very much and very often think and see from what I read that the Labout and Socialist movement is actual a backward looking philosophy, outwardly vocal about sticking up for the working class and the down trodden, but in actual fact what they do is decry any kind of 'poor man made good' story (which is what they claim the equality of opportunity is about), they see any form of wealth by any individual or corportaion as bad (because it more than they individually have and is driven by the green eyed jealousy monster), they support those who can't support themselves , not because it fits with their ideology, but because it allows the slightly more active and eductaed socialist the feeling of power over those that won't challenge them.............

Let me point out that the majority of the Labour oppposition past and present are not working class by the original definition, so stop all this Tory toff stuff....Mandleson (Grammer school, grandson of an ex Labour cabinet minister), Blair (private school), Balls (private all boys school), Harriet Harman (fee paying school), Tristram Hunt (Private charity school), Hilary Benn (Prep school), Rosie Winterton (independaent boarding school) etc etc etc

These are children of educated and professional people, so they maybe have a social view of life, but don't try to kid me or convince me these people have the background to consider themselves as truly emphathetic to the 'man in the street'........any more than they claim this for the Tory Toffs.........

Until they're needed to fight and die in our next war.

Let them eat crap, "I'm All Right ITK" ?

Fair Justice wrote:
Until they're needed to fight and die in our next war.

Let them eat crap, "I'm All Right ITK" ?

Councils are just as bad, takes them weeks for them to do repairs. Had to wait 2 weeks for them to fix kitchen pipe, they told me not attempt to fix or call someone we need to do it, the job took 15 minutes.

In The Know wrote:
hedda wrote:
Third of ex-council homes now owned by rich landlords


Just goes to prove - no matter what they get - they can't look after it !

... and to think, we allow these people a vote !

it is quite shocking that rich landlords get a vote.

Like the utility sell off the 'right to buy' policy of 80s Maggie vintage has both good and bad points.
The French government EDF now supplies my electric,so French taxpayers make a profit out of me!
Many of those lucky enough to buy there council property at a discount have sold on to landlords like Mr Gow,who no doubt paid the going market rate,and now profit from all those council benefit payments from those unemployed/sick etc.

The article is bias,political point scoring,as is a lot of the stuff on here....and it all adds to the fun.

hedda wrote:
it is quite shocking that rich landlords get a vote.

Buy-to-let property supremo shuts door on housing benefit tenants

One of Britain's best-known landlords, who owns nearly 1,000 homes, has sent out 200 eviction notices

www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/04/bu...sing-benefit-tenants

In The Know (as always) wrote:
hedda wrote:
it is quite shocking that rich landlords get a vote.

Buy-to-let property supremo shuts door on housing benefit tenants

One of Britain's best-known landlords, who owns nearly 1,000 homes, has sent out 200 eviction notices

www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/04/bu...sing-benefit-tenants

charming couple

My sister wanted a flat, it all feel through day before she could move in, landlord decided to sell instead. I had some bad and good landlords the bad ones are the ones that live abroad, landlords need to be more laid back as long as they get the money does it care who they have ? Also if you have a dog etc they should still let you rent it out.

Landlords who do not accept DSS are tax dodgers.

hedda wrote:
charming couple

Not the only ones, hedda ... it IS after all, a business !

Who would want "customers" that don't pay?

"Our situation is that not one of our working tenants is in arrears - all those in arrears are on housing benefit."

They have no one to blame but themselves.

Most dolers are more likely to pay rent then those in work. Most housing benefit get paid to the landlord or estate agent every month.

In The Know wrote:
hedda wrote:
charming couple

Not the only ones, hedda ... it IS after all, a business !

Who would want "customers" that don't pay?

"Our situation is that not one of our working tenants is in arrears - all those in arrears are on housing benefit."

They have no one to blame but themselves.

Not quite as simple as it sounds.

Most of the arrears are because the Tories cut housing benefit.It's now almost impossible to find a place that is completely covered by housing benefit.Add that to the many who have been hit by fines to their benefit then the situation is more in context.
Add to this the masses of immigrants who are prepared to live up to 5 in a room then you have a better and clearer picture.

We're fast creating an underclass who will end up costing us more riots,more crime,and alienation that will take many decades to heal.

andrew wrote:
Most dolers are more likely to pay rent then those in work. Most housing benefit get paid to the landlord or estate agent every month.

Under Universal Credit housing benefit will be paid to the tenant - for him to pass onto the landlord.

The thinking behind this is that the tenant will see exactly how much their housing is costing (rather than thinking "its free" !) and also help them better manage their monthly budgets.

In The Know wrote:
andrew wrote:
Most dolers are more likely to pay rent then those in work. Most housing benefit get paid to the landlord or estate agent every month.

Under Universal Credit housing benefit will be paid to the tenant - for him to pass onto the landlord.

The thinking behind this is that the tenant will see exactly how much their housing is costing (rather than thinking "its free" !) and also help them better manage their monthly budgets.

Or, they will spend it all on Tennants lager for the eighteen months it takes to evict them, then they will be re-housed because they are homeless and do it all over again.

Pattaya wrote:
In The Know wrote:
hedda wrote:
charming couple

Not the only ones, hedda ... it IS after all, a business !

Who would want "customers" that don't pay?

"Our situation is that not one of our working tenants is in arrears - all those in arrears are on housing benefit."

They have no one to blame but themselves.

Not quite as simple as it sounds.

Most of the arrears are because the Tories cut housing benefit.It's now almost impossible to find a place that is completely covered by housing benefit.Add that to the many who have been hit by fines to their benefit then the situation is more in context.
Add to this the masses of immigrants who are prepared to live up to 5 in a room then you have a better and clearer picture.

We're fast creating an underclass who will end up costing us more riots,more crime,and alienation that will take many decades to heal.

correct

Everyone are saying the same thing, I had housing benefit paid to me then give it to landlord, it get's more complicated when housing benefit gets paid to the claimant then claimant has to pass it on to the guarantor, then passes it on the letting agents, more of this is happening.

Budgeting is a doodle for many people, but many will struggle doing it.

Pattaya wrote:
Most of the arrears are because the Tories cut housing benefit.It's now almost impossible to find a place that is completely covered by housing benefit.

Then people MUST learn to live on what they can afford.

Years ago people didn;t leave home until they could afford a home of their own - now they want one and expect someone else to pay for it !

We're fast creating an underclass who will end up costing us more riots,more crime,and alienation that will take many decades to heal.

Perhaps, temporarily ... buts its decades of pandering to scroungers which got us to this place.

Crime is down (people are learning), rioters at Tottenham were jailed (people are learning), and if we have to crush a few more before they finally get the message - so be it.

The alternative is sheer bankruptcy for everyone.

andrew wrote:
Everyone are saying the same thing, I had housing benefit paid to me then give it to landlord, it get's more complicated when housing benefit gets paid to the claimant then claimant has to pass it on to the guarantor, then passes it on the letting agents, more of this is happening.

Budgeting is a doodle for many people, but many will struggle doing it.

I think budgeting is time consuming and often difficult and it will be beyond some people's capabilities.
I have to do endless "lists"

The selling of council houses is another example of how a good idea is twisted when it is put into practice.
It was portrayed as "a council house built for a council house sold" but it didn't happen.