My girlfriend has the money.

NHS are filthy hospitals, killed close relatives of mine and I prefer to take my chances without them.

Gagging law needs to be scrapped.

Silenced !

As all that type should be !

Managed to watch on YouTube (poor old hedda - can't even use the internet with his dodgy links !)

What a load of bollocks !

The NHS budget has INCREASED each and every year under the Coalition (mainly to deal with fat people like her)

No wonder you are so confused, hedda - listening to lies and mis-information from people who are too idle to walk (I couldn't see her mobility scooter - but am sure it was in the foyer) !

Just close the NHS.

In The Know wrote:
Managed to watch on YouTube (poor old hedda - can't even use the internet with his dodgy links !)

What a load of bollocks !

The NHS budget has INCREASED each and every year under the Coalition (mainly to deal with fat people like her)

No wonder you are so confused, hedda - listening to lies and mis-information from people who are too idle to walk (I couldn't see her mobility scooter - but am sure it was in the foyer) !

they should make ITK Minister For Weight Control & Special Adviser for Wheelchair Mobility & Silly Walks.

then a copper could claim he was called a pleb by him.

the link comes from the saintly Dennis Skinner

Bollocks ITK. The NHS is in a shocking state. Try moving to Berkshire & see how shoddy it is. Like Andrew, I've also lost relatives to badly organised hospitals & cries from the staff themselves like "This place is shit". Not something regular, you'd expect to hear in a hospital. But these days, a regular occurence.

And the reason? Low budgetting, hign paid contridictory doctors that don't know shit from clay or what the day is.

Hospitals are that bad & I'm not going to e ven start with GPs...who are a complete waste of space & should be axed immediately.

In The Know wrote:
Managed to watch on YouTube (poor old hedda - can't even use the internet with his dodgy links !)

What a load of bollocks !

The NHS budget has INCREASED each and every year under the Coalition (mainly to deal with fat people like her)

No wonder you are so confused, hedda - listening to lies and mis-information from people who are too idle to walk (I couldn't see her mobility scooter - but am sure it was in the foyer) !

I find your response to this video very weak.

Here is a woman who, whether you agree with her or not, is speaking passionately about something she believes in. She is doing so publicly on television, which is quite a brave thing to do.

Rather than criticise what she is saying, your only response is to spit bile anonymously from behind a computer screen.

Is that really the best you can do?

david wrote:
I find your response to this video very weak.

Here is a woman who, whether you agree with her or not, is speaking passionately about something she believes in. She is doing so publicly on television, which is quite a brave thing to do.

Rather than criticise what she is saying, your only response is to spit bile anonymously from behind a computer screen.

She was talking bollocks !
She implied that CUTS had been made - which is untrue.

If you want to listen to someone to whom FACTS clearly don't matter, that's your business - but don't expect the intelligent to listen to you.

Is that really the best you can do?

Hedda ought to know better than to post such drivel - fuelled as it was by a supportive (and equally uninformed) section of the audience.

They are not worth my time - or yours.

bh wrote:
Hospitals are that bad & I'm not going to e ven start with GPs...who are a complete waste of space & should be axed immediately.

.... what utterly absurd comments !

bh wrote:
Bollocks ITK. The NHS is in a shocking state. Try moving to Berkshire & see how shoddy it is. Like Andrew, I've also lost relatives to badly organised hospitals & cries from the staff themselves like "This place is shit". Not something regular, you'd expect to hear in a hospital. But these days, a regular occurence.

And the reason? Low budgetting, hign paid contridictory doctors that don't know shit from clay or what the day is.

Hospitals are that bad & I'm not going to e ven start with GPs...who are a complete waste of space & should be axed immediately.

Another reason why I don't want a GP BH. They don't care what you got they just want you out their office and give you placebo's.

Even my ex girlfriends have lost loved ones by botched operations and simple procedures. Ex cought E Coli from a wound where she had appendix removed used they didn't sterilise their surgical instruments. In some hospitals syringes have been left in beds, inside people and on floors. Dressings have been left on for days without change, nurses go home as soon as their shift ends and say I can't help I'm going home.

Close them stop throwing money in a piss pot.

ITK goes private don't he.

hedda wrote:
the link comes from the saintly Dennis Skinner

No wonder it doesn't work - just like most of his constituents !

"Unemployment rates in the district are consistently amongst the highest within the county, with the district level being above the county and national levels. Some individual wards are reaching levels of around twice the national figure for male residents"
www.bolsover.gov.uk/LocalPlan/chapter04.htm

To go back to your fat woman -

1. David Dimbleby made it clear at the start of the clip that she had been trying to push in for the last 10 minutes (on ALL the previous subjects?) Clearly she has an (uninformed) opinion about everything - and factual knowledge about NOTHING !

2. She could NOT even remember the name of EITHER of the people she wanted to speak to !!!

3. Her rant about "privatising the NHS" (LIES !) lasted only a short while before she went onto womens rights / immigration / gagging orders / etc etc etc

4. It turns out that she is an activist (for the loonies?) in Lewisham !!!!!!

Well, that IS a surprise - NOT !

[quote]bh wrote:
Hospitals are that bad & I'm not going to e ven start with GPs...who are a complete waste of space & should be axed immediately.

The NHS is the government's largest "spend"

It is the largest employer in the UK (1.7 million people) - in fact its the fourth largest employer in the World (after the Chinese Army, Wal-Mart and Indian railways !)

They treat 1 million people every 36 hours.

It is an astonishingly successful organisation ... even more so when you consider that it is difficult to "manage" (for example - as you never know when casualties will turn-up, its difficult to plan staffing levels).

What exactly would you do to improve it ?

In The Know wrote:


Hedda ought to know better than to post such drivel - fuelled as it was by a supportive (and equally uninformed) section of the audience.

They are not worth my time - or yours.

You seemed to think it worth your time to attack the woman, rather than criticise what she said.

Again, pretty easy to do from the anonymity of a keyboard, when this woman said what she had to say in public.

It reminds me of Mary Beard, who spoke out about misconstrued attitudes on immigration, only to be greeted with a barrage of vile abuse on social media about her personal appearance.

Just what is it that makes people react in this way? It's one of the things I dislike about the internet age (altho I use it and work in IT). You do it quite a lot ITK.

Not many people remember names of MP's there a hundreds of them.

You are only given a few moments to express your views on Question Time.

In The Know wrote:
bh wrote:
Hospitals are that bad & I'm not going to e ven start with GPs...who are a complete waste of space & should be axed immediately.

.... what utterly absurd comments !

Are you private ITK ?

david wrote:
Again, pretty easy to do from the anonymity of a keyboard, when this woman said what she had to say in public.

yes - she was very determined (according to David Dimbleby) to have her say (on ANY subject) ! But these "activists" usually are (because they don't go to work so have lots of time on their hands to complain !)

Let me turn the tables on you - what gives HER the right to a public airing ?
Is she a great philanthropist? Does she employ hundreds of people? Does she pay vast amounts of tax ? The answer will be a resounding NO to all those, won't it?

The idea that one person's opinion has the same value as another is absurd.
Different levels of intelligence / different education / different comprehension / and one person may have the facts - which clearly she did not ! Just because you have a GOB does not make what spouts from it right !!!

It reminds me of Mary Beard, who spoke out about misconstrued attitudes on immigration, only to be greeted with a barrage of vile abuse on social media about her personal appearance.

Just what is it that makes people react in this way? You do it quite a lot ITK.

Not going to make any apology about that !
You could see ... by her manner / attitude / demeanor - that she is a persistent "complainer" and probably contributes absolutely nothing !

I'll bet you any sum you like - hedda refused to accept my last bet because he knows I'm right ! Hedda is not as daft as he pretends to be ! - that she has also complained about the "spare room tax" (probably because she keeps her mobility scooter in it) !

When will you people understand - these professional complainers don't give a toss about anyone else but themselves.
They don't care that there are five million on housing waiting lists - they just want their FREE bedroom !

They are always there with their hands out - they never ever contribute - and always expect someone else to foot the bill.

She was an absolute classic example.

For a moment, I thought it was leching! But no one would do that to ITK. Lynch maybe, but not lech!

In The Know wrote:
david wrote:
Again, pretty easy to do from the anonymity of a keyboard, when this woman said what she had to say in public.

yes - she was very determined (according to David Dimbleby) to have her say (on ANY subject) ! But these "activists" usually are (because they don't go to work so have lots of time on their hands to complain !)

Let me turn the tables on you - what gives HER the right to a public airing ?
Is she a great philanthropist? Does she employ hundreds of people? Does she pay vast amounts of tax ? The answer will be a resounding NO to all those, won't it?

The idea that one person's opinion has the same value as another is absurd.
Different levels of intelligence / different education / different comprehension / and one person may have the facts - which clearly she did not ! Just because you have a GOB does not make what spouts from it right !!!

It reminds me of Mary Beard, who spoke out about misconstrued attitudes on immigration, only to be greeted with a barrage of vile abuse on social media about her personal appearance.

Just what is it that makes people react in this way? You do it quite a lot ITK.

Not going to make any apology about that !
You could see ... by her manner / attitude / demeanor - that she is a persistent "complainer" and probably contributes absolutely nothing !

I'll bet you any sum you like - hedda refused to accept my last bet because he knows I'm right ! Hedda is not as daft as he pretends to be ! - that she has also complained about the "spare room tax" (probably because she keeps her mobility scooter in it) !

When will you people understand - these professional complainers don't give a toss about anyone else but themselves.
They don't care that there are five million on housing waiting lists - they just want their FREE bedroom !

They are always there with their hands out - they never ever contribute - and always expect someone else to foot the bill.

She was an absolute classic example.

As I say downsize and change to private renting, sell possessions for deposit. Had private in work and out of work, girlfriend was lucky to have a council flat.

In The Know wrote:
bh wrote:
Hospitals are that bad & I'm not going to e ven start with GPs...who are a complete waste of space & should be axed immediately.

The NHS is the government's largest "spend"

It is the largest employer in the UK (1.7 million people) - in fact its the fourth largest employer in the World (after the Chinese Army, Wal-Mart and Indian railways !)

They treat 1 million people every 36 hours.

It is an astonishingly successful organisation ... even more so when you consider that it is difficult to "manage" (for example - as you never know when casualties will turn-up, its difficult to plan staffing levels).

What exactly would you do to improve it ?

I assume that the question was too deep for you ?