They want to get rid off red tape and say 'Fuck you' to the EU

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538003...not-negotiation.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537834...tephen-Lawrence.html

Mandela was a terrorist and wife beater and people admire him for some bizarre reason, SA is still a very dangerous country.

Media twist everything on UKIP, people are murdered everyday police botched up Stephen Lewis murder case they got their eventually. Racism in society will never go away even blacks hate white but media won't accept that, only white can hate black, husband hit their wife's, wife's don't beat their husbands ?

"They want to get rid off red tape and say 'Fuck you' to the EU"

I'm sure even Godfrey Bloom wouldn't put it quite like that. And I know Godfrey Bloom.


"Mandela was a terrorist and wife beater..."


Even were we to accept that as true {and I'm not at all sure that we are}, please explain why it is a "reason to vote UKiP".


"...and people admire him for some bizarre reason"

Perhaps it might have something to do with the concept of "reconciliation". I'm not convinced that his admirers are likely in any case to be voting in their droves for UKiP anyway. Leastways I, as an admitted admirer of Nelson Mandela, certainly won't be. I remain firmly attached to the view that if UKiP is the answer someone's asked the wrong question. Whatever, the politics of South Africa has utterly no bearing on whether or not one should vote UKiP. I have to ask, do you genuinely believe that a vote for UKiP is a vote for a safer South Africa, or did you bring it up just because you don't like South Africans in general or because you don't like black South Africans in particular?

"Media twist everything on UKIP"

And you have a clearer view of their policies? If so you are not, I'm here to tell you, presenting your case terribly well.

"people are murdered everyday"

I know. We all know. What's that got to do with UKiP?

" police botched up Stephen Lewis murder case they got their eventually."

I guess you mean "Stephen Lawrence". And "there" And you still haven't given us even one "reason to vote UKiP"

"Racism in society will never go away..."

As long as there are people like you to keep it going, no it won't.

"even blacks hate white..."

No, some blacks hate whites, just as some whites hate blacks, and just as some blacks hate some other blacks and some whites hate some other whites. Just because it happens is no reason to simply accept it and not flag it up as wrong.

"husband hit their wife's, wife's don't beat their husbands ?

You appear, at last, to have hit upon something that does have some relevance when seen within the context of UKiP, Their views on equality of the sexes are pretty clear. They don't want any.

Let's face it. You haven't really given us any reasons to "vote UKiP" at all. What you have presented us with is just another rather tedious list of your hate-filled prejudices. That's all.

Locked Out wrote:
"They want to get rid off red tape and say 'Fuck you' to the EU"

I'm sure even Godfrey Bloom wouldn't put it quite like that. And I know Godfrey Bloom.


"Mandela was a terrorist and wife beater..."


Even were we to accept that as true {and I'm not at all sure that we are}, please explain why it is a "reason to vote UKiP".


"...and people admire him for some bizarre reason"

Perhaps it might have something to do with the concept of "reconciliation". I'm not convinced that his admirers are likely in any case to be voting in their droves for UKiP anyway. Leastways I, as an admitted admirer of Nelson Mandela, certainly won't be. I remain firmly attached to the view that if UKiP is the answer someone's asked the wrong question. Whatever, the politics of South Africa has utterly no bearing on whether or not one should vote UKiP. I have to ask, do you genuinely believe that a vote for UKiP is a vote for a safer South Africa, or did you bring it up just because you don't like South Africans in general or because you don't like black South Africans in particular?

"Media twist everything on UKIP"

And you have a clearer view of their policies? If so you are not, I'm here to tell you, presenting your case terribly well.

"people are murdered everyday"

I know. We all know. What's that got to do with UKiP?

" police botched up Stephen Lewis murder case they got their eventually."

I guess you mean "Stephen Lawrence". And "there" And you still haven't given us even one "reason to vote UKiP"

"Racism in society will never go away..."

As long as there are people like you to keep it going, no it won't.

"even blacks hate white..."

No, some blacks hate whites, just as some whites hate blacks, and just as some blacks hate some other blacks and some whites hate some other whites. Just because it happens is no reason to simply accept it and not flag it up as wrong.

"husband hit their wife's, wife's don't beat their husbands ?

You appear, at last, to have hit upon something that does have some relevance when seen within the context of UKiP, Their views on equality of the sexes are pretty clear. They don't want any.

Let's face it. You haven't really given us any reasons to "vote UKiP" at all. What you have presented us with is just another rather tedious list of your hate-filled prejudices. That's all.

When was a black man arrested for racism ? UKIP will make Britain great no EU red tape bollocks to deal with, make BBC privatise not a propaganda corporation. ITK will love their policy on unemployment.

Have you read the links and Ukip agenda ? No

As long as there are people like you to keep it going, no it won't.

Anything but a racist Locked Out.

Locked Out wrote:
What you have presented us with is just another rather tedious list of your hate-filled prejudices. That's all.

And he hasn't even started on the BBC yet!

Don't need to.

andrew wrote:
ITK will love their policy on unemployment.

... are firing squads involved ????

Locked Out wrote:
"They want to get rid off red tape and say 'Fuck you' to the EU"

I'm sure even Godfrey Bloom wouldn't put it quite like that. And I know Godfrey Bloom.


"Mandela was a terrorist and wife beater..."


Even were we to accept that as true {and I'm not at all sure that we are}, please explain why it is a "reason to vote UKiP".


"...and people admire him for some bizarre reason"

Perhaps it might have something to do with the concept of "reconciliation". I'm not convinced that his admirers are likely in any case to be voting in their droves for UKiP anyway. Leastways I, as an admitted admirer of Nelson Mandela, certainly won't be. I remain firmly attached to the view that if UKiP is the answer someone's asked the wrong question. Whatever, the politics of South Africa has utterly no bearing on whether or not one should vote UKiP. I have to ask, do you genuinely believe that a vote for UKiP is a vote for a safer South Africa, or did you bring it up just because you don't like South Africans in general or because you don't like black South Africans in particular?

"Media twist everything on UKIP"

And you have a clearer view of their policies? If so you are not, I'm here to tell you, presenting your case terribly well.

"people are murdered everyday"

I know. We all know. What's that got to do with UKiP?

" police botched up Stephen Lewis murder case they got their eventually."

I guess you mean "Stephen Lawrence". And "there" And you still haven't given us even one "reason to vote UKiP"

"Racism in society will never go away..."

As long as there are people like you to keep it going, no it won't.

"even blacks hate white..."

No, some blacks hate whites, just as some whites hate blacks, and just as some blacks hate some other blacks and some whites hate some other whites. Just because it happens is no reason to simply accept it and not flag it up as wrong.

"husband hit their wife's, wife's don't beat their husbands ?

You appear, at last, to have hit upon something that does have some relevance when seen within the context of UKiP, Their views on equality of the sexes are pretty clear. They don't want any.

Let's face it. You haven't really given us any reasons to "vote UKiP" at all. What you have presented us with is just another rather tedious list of your hate-filled prejudices. That's all.

We should bring back BR,you're obviously bored.

Maybe his on the dole Pat ?

In The Know wrote:
andrew wrote:
ITK will love their policy on unemployment.

... are firing squads involved ????

www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/mar/22...ants-tobacco-alcohol

Also no job no vote how does that sound ?

ITK this might change your mind.

welfarenewsservice.com/what-would-a-ukip-britain-look-like/

andrew wrote:
Don't need to.

If only you'd act accordingly.

andrew wrote:
Also no job no vote how does that sound ?

Perfect !

How it should be - and was ! The glorious days when the landowning rich ran the country - and Britain was respected throughout the world !

Those that contribute to society should have a say in running that society (in others words - pay nothing in = have no say in how the country's money is spent !)

In The Know wrote:
andrew wrote:
Also no job no vote how does that sound ?

Perfect !

How it should be - and was ! The glorious days when the landowning rich ran the country - and Britain was respected throughout the world !

Those that contribute to society should have a say in running that society (in others words - pay nothing in = have no say in how the country's money is spent !)

Given up your day job and become an historian?

Completely wrong again ITK!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)

The two great Electoral Reform Acts of 1832 and 1967 saw a continuous rise in GDP and prosperity after their passing.
Gone were the idiots who lost America,in came the new accountable politicians,who made us the greatest empire in the world by the late 1800s.

You be voting Ukip then ITK.

In The Know wrote:
andrew wrote:
ITK will love their policy on unemployment.

... are firing squads involved ????

one could be arranged.

remember the French Revolution.

although of course I identified with Ms Attoinette at the time.

Pattaya wrote:
The two great Electoral Reform Acts of 1832 and 1967 saw a continuous rise in GDP and prosperity after their passing.

... and the percentage voting was still a tiny minority !

The system of universal suffrage did not exist in the United Kingdom until 1928. From 1688 to 1832, less than 10% of the adult male population had the right to vote.

The first act to increase the size of the electorate was the Reform Act 1832 (sometimes known as the Great Reform Act). The overall result of the Act was that the electorate was increased to 14% of the adult male population.

The Ballot Act 1872 replaced open elections with secret ballot system. The Corrupt and Illegal Practices Prevention Act 1883 criminalised attempts to bribe voters and standardised the amount that could be spent on election expenses. The Representation of the People Act 1884 and the Redistribution of Seats Act 1885 (the Third Reform Act) collectively increased the electorate to 56% of the adult male population.

NOTE - male population. So given that 50% of the population was female you have to HALVE these percentages to get the percentage of the total population.

remember the French Revolution.

I'm sure ITK remembers it very well.

Pattaya wrote:
Gone were the idiots who lost America,

... I hope that's NOT a dig at my ancestor (through marriage) Mrs Fitzherbert (the wife of King George IV) ?

Just reading a very good biography of her now.

in came the new accountable politicians,who made us the greatest empire in the world by the late 1800s.

Yes - all long before the Labour Party was even though of !

Great leaders like Lord Leverhulme and Titus Salt ... who risked their own money to set-up enterprises (with absolutely no guarantee of a result !) They were very rich men (although Leverhulme started out - like our beloved Maggie - with a grocer for a father) and both could have just sat back and lived off their wealth.

But no ... (like all good Tories) they set up factories to employ the peasants ... and also built them villages (Port Sunlight from Leverhulme / Saltaire from Salt) hospitals, schools, churches, reading rooms, meeting houses, and libraries !

Amazingly, the peasants were grateful. Very grateful.

When Leverhulme died, 30,000 people attended the funeral.
(Its arguable that most of those people would have already been dead if Leverhulme had not rescued them from the gutter and put a roof over their heads).

These days they would want the roof - and the spare bedroom (to house the mobility scooter !)

When Salt died - 100,000 people lined the funeral route !

In The Know wrote:
[quote]Pattaya wrote:
Gone were the idiots who lost America,

... I hope that's NOT a dig at my ancestor (through marriage) Mrs Fitzherbert (the wife of King George IV) ?

Just reading a very good biography of her now.

[quote]

another confirmation of a great saying : you can choose your friends but not your family