I couldn't go but nothing but fond memories of the dear man.

I'm sure the House of Howard (which both he and my ancestors married into) were well represented.

Its a common delusion of people in this country - thinking that they're related to the aristocracy.

Almost worse still is their compulsive desire to continually convey the delusion to the general public, never missing an opportunity.

Even if the opportunity is nonexistent - and the public abjectly apathetic.

SP17 wrote:
Its a common delusion of people in this country - thinking that they're related to the aristocracy.

Almost worse still is their compulsive desire to continually convey the delusion to the general public, never missing an opportunity.

Even if the opportunity is nonexistent - and the public abjectly apathetic.





Its usually just joking around. All of us are related to somebody of note.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
All of us are related to somebody of note.

Quite correct, honey!

Of course, records (ie land records) only usually exist for gentry, so the common people (like Hedda) have difficulty tracing their line pre 1835 (official baptismal records) or, if churchgoers pre appx 1570

PS honey!

I am in the North East at the weekend looking at some original documents signed by my ancestor Thomas Eyre - founder of Ushaw College.

The college closed in 2011 and is now used as a library by Durham University

I tried to count the number of descendents one may have from a relative in the 1200s and I gave up at around 30,000...after forgetting a few spiraling arms and the figure may have been double.

Besides we are all related as we all come from Adam and Eve.

So everyone should go and see their great great great..ad finitum..grandpa Noah in his new biopic.

## with clever deduction work I now believe that Comrade Jesus ( who invented Socialism) was probably born the same day as me and not in December (does he have any Capricorn qualities ?)..hence my saint like appearance. It makes sense- he was a typical Virgo.

In The Know wrote:
Thomas Eyre - founder of Ushaw College



As Eyre wasn't born until nearly 200 years after Ushaw was founded in 1568, that's not possible. William Gibson was the founder of the college which closed due to a sharp decrease in the numbers of men wishing to become priests.

hedda wrote:
I tried to count the number of descendents one may have from a relative in the 1200s and I gave up at around 30,000...after forgetting a few spiraling arms and the figure may have been double.

Besides we are all related as we all come from Adam and Eve.

So everyone should go and see their great great great..ad finitum..grandpa Noah in his new biopic.

## with clever deduction work I now believe that Comrade Jesus ( who invented Socialism) was probably born the same day as me and not in December (does he have any Capricorn qualities ?)..hence my saint like appearance. It makes sense- he was a typical Virgo.

I thought we came from apes.

Personally I found it a bit OTT to honour The Bubonic Plagiarist in this way. I remember him at Peter Cook's memorial, laughing the loudest when Alan Bennett recalled that Cook's greatest regret was saving David Frost from drowning. I guess many felt that showed he was a good sport. I thought it showed he never really 'got' anything significant, except in an incredibly superficial way. I prefer an interviewer who still seems to have a moral compass. I fear Frostie lost his somewhere between Cambridge and London. 'Have you met the Pinochets...?' Quite.

hedda wrote:
I tried to count the number of descendents one may have from a relative in the 1200s and I gave up at around 30,000...after forgetting a few spiraling arms and the figure may have been double.

Besides we are all related as we all come from Adam and Eve.

Hedda is superficially right - but his claims come NOT from actually having any evidence of descent from the Plantagents, but in a sweeping claim BECAUSE he has no evidence !

Why your claims fall hedda, is that the gentry largely married within their own class. Derbyshire, for example, only had about 30 gentry families and at some time or other they all married into each other. After the reformation the number of Catholic families was reduced further - causing them to look further afield - but always to fellow gentry.

andrew wrote:
I thought we came from apes.

.... some very clearly do !

I think I've been badgered!

SP17 wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Thomas Eyre - founder of Ushaw College


As Eyre wasn't born until nearly 200 years after Ushaw was founded in 1568, that's not possible.

Perhaps you'd better explain that to Durham University - I'm sure they will appreciate being corrected LOL (*) !!!!

www.dur.ac.uk/library/asc/localother/ush...loaderush/?collno=34

(*) You will see that the collection also contains documents pertaining to the Earl of Derwentwater and Lord Widdrington too.

I'm sure you will be equally annoyed that BOTH of these men (Charles, 5th Earl of Derwentwater and Lord Widdrington) married into the Eyre clan !

Time for yet another name change, perhaps?

Frostie would hate this - his own thread, and he's not being talked about on it!

Pru wrote:
Frostie would hate this - his own thread, and he's not being talked about on it!

Let's put that right, Pru !

Frostie was married to Carina FitzAlan-Howard, whose father was Miles Stapleton-FitzAlan-Howard,17th Duke of Norfolk.

His father was Bernard FitzAlan-Howard, 3rd Baron Howard of Glossop. You can follow that line back all the way to Henry Howard, 6th Duke of Norfolk, whose father (Henry Frederick Howard) was the 22nd Earl of Arundel. His brother was William Howard, 1st Viscount Stafford, whose daughter (Lady Anastacia Howard) married George Holman of Warkworth, Leics.

Their daughter (Mary Holman) married Thomas Eyre (of Eastwell, Leics and Hassop, Derbyshire).

Thomas Eyre's son Francis Eyre (who married Lady Mary, daughter of Charles Radcliffe, 5th Earl of Derwentwater) sold Warkworth (for £70,000 in the early 1700s !) and brought the stained glass from there back to Hassop when he inherited that (where it still is today).

So ... there you have it - David Frost and ITK are relatives !

www.en.m.wikidedia.org/wiki/Ushaw_College


Strange - the Eyre name is conspicuous by its absence.

The UC founder!

SP17 wrote:
www.en.m.wikidedia.org/wiki/Ushaw_College


Strange - the Eyre name is conspicuous by its absence.

The UC founder!

It helps if you get the link right !

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushaw_College

If you scroll down to the list of former Presidents, Thomas Eyre is the FIRST listed !

Also ... among the alumni (clergy) is Eyre's nephew Charles Petre Eyre - Archbishop of Glasgow - (who was also one of the founding subscribers to the formation of Celtic Football Club !)

In The Know wrote:
I am in the North East at the weekend looking at some original documents signed by my ancestor Thomas Eyre - founder of Ushaw College

Thomas Eyre was, indeed, the first president of Ushaw College - in England.

But, not the founder (as you stated) which, of course, is an entirely different matter.

Ushaw College was founded almost 200 years before he was born.

Yes, while Thomas Eyre was busy founding Ushaw College (to replace the closure of Douai in France, following the French Revolution), he also had 2 other brothers who became priests.

Yet another brother - Vincent Eyre - was left to look after the family finances - and even started his own bank ! (first customer - the Duke of Norfolk) - you can read about him on the Royal Bank of Scotland website -

heritagearchives.rbs.com/people/list/vincent-eyre.html

Such achievers - the Eyres !

In The Know wrote:
Yes, while Thomas Eyre was busy founding Ushaw College (to replace the closure of Douai

To stay on point, Thomas Eyre was never busy founding anything. When the English College, Douai eventually relocated to Ushaw Moor, it was called St Cuthbert's College.

It was later renamed Ushaw after its location - and the founder (and builder) was William Gibson, a bishop; see your own wikipedia article.

In 1794 - Thomas Eyre became the newly located college's first president, an administrative role. Other Eyre men becams students and alumni.