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#113541
Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
I must say I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I've not gone along with the "anything suspicious" opinions but this extraordinary transcript showing that the last words were totally different from those we'd been told does make me wonder. Either staggering incompetence or something fishy. There can be no other explanation.
 
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#113575
Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
So what do YOU think happened ITK? And if there is a "cover up", what is being covered up and why?
 
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#113577
In The Know

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
All speculation, but ...

Terrorism - unlikely - (no group has claimed responsibility) - so whats the point ?

Pilot suicide - again unlikely - no note / no apparent "distress" with pilot etc

Systems failure - unlikely - there would have been time to send May Day, and why was the transponder deliberately switched off? Why no wreckage found?

Conspiracy theory time -

We know that the Americans have almost perfected the use of drones.
If they can remotely fly a small "aircraft" then why not a larger one?
Was something being tested - and it went wrong? (Is that why 20 members of a firm who do secret work for the US military were on board?)

The "silence" from Diego Garcia is interesting ... no explanation for the cancellation of ALL flights in / out between March 7th and 9th (plane disappeared on the 8th).

Imagine ... just imagine, if the US government had fitted some kind of device that allowed it to "take over" an aircraft and fly it remotely.

They already scoop everyone's e mails and monitor all other activity.
Not so far fetched?

Imagine if such devices had been fitted prior to 9/11 - the planes could have been "diverted" and a great loss of life avoided.

After 9/11 would that not be your No 1 priority if you had the power?
 
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#113578
andrew

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
All speculation, but ...

Terrorism - unlikely - (no group has claimed responsibility) - so whats the point ?

Pilot suicide - again unlikely - no note / no apparent "distress" with pilot etc

Systems failure - unlikely - there would have been time to send May Day, and why was the transponder deliberately switched off? Why no wreckage found?

Conspiracy theory time -

We know that the Americans have almost perfected the use of drones.
If they can remotely fly a small "aircraft" then why not a larger one?
Was something being tested - and it went wrong? (Is that why 20 members of a firm who do secret work for the US military were on board?)

The "silence" from Diego Garcia is interesting ... no explanation for the cancellation of ALL flights in / out between March 7th and 9th (plane disappeared on the 8th).

Imagine ... just imagine, if the US government had fitted some kind of device that allowed it to "take over" an aircraft and fly it remotely.

They already scoop everyone's e mails and monitor all other activity.
Not so far fetched?

Imagine if such devices had been fitted prior to 9/11 - the planes could have been "diverted" and a great loss of life avoided.

After 9/11 would that not be your No 1 priority if you had the power?


ITK theory is most plausible also they could millions in compensation, the phones still ringing when the plane was missing has been ignored.
 
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#113579
Mr Reason

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
Can't see why you'd pick Malaysian Airlines, why pick a route to China? That would surely just serve to wind them up if it was succesfull, the plane was full of Chinese nationals, can't see China taking that lying down...........surely a successful US 'test' has to deal with the passenger issue as would a covered up 'fail'.................a more expendable and easier target for the US would surely be an African flight out of a muslim conflict area and open airspace over a mass of land....and the potential of Ascention as an out of the way target airfield...........

Agreed. drones are piloted from Nevada and Lincolnshire over Afghanistan, but I don't see a Malaysian 777 being an easier target or a reasonable one when there would be other flights to target without Chinese nationals aboard, or a destination of Beijing.....that would be like a destination of UK or US nationals to Heathrow or JFK....seems much too high profile a destination........now a flight of Africans to a smaller African destinantion would surely be much lower risk and profile...............for the US

So why would you hijack and remote fly a commercial plane? Why Malaysia? Why chinese nationals? Why Beijing destinantion? Unless the US has nothing to do with it, and it is a Chinese 'thing'........and the smokescreen is China pushing forward their bereaved families in search of answers from Malaysia, when in actual fact the major victim, but also villain is China ?

I don't like conspiracy theories, but until we know more on this, my guess is as good as the next mans
 
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#113585
In The Know

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
Mr Reason wrote:
So why would you hijack and remote fly a commercial plane?

Simply to show (the world) that you can !

Terrorism virtually wiped-out instantly.

It would not be a giant leap to force all airlines (wanting to land in the USA - and most commercial planes are Boeings anyway) to fit the equipment allowing remote flying, so the US would be protected (just in case).

I don't like conspiracy theories, but until we know more on this, my guess is as good as the next mans

Neither do I ... but when you rule out all possibilities (to quote Sherlock) whatever remains, however implausible, must be the answer !

... AND (to quote ITK) you can have co-incidences, but when you have too many co-incidences it probably isn't a co-incidence !!!!
 
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#113586
Foz

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
All speculation, but ...

Terrorism - unlikely - (no group has claimed responsibility) - so whats the point ?

Pilot suicide - again unlikely - no note / no apparent "distress" with pilot etc

Systems failure - unlikely - there would have been time to send May Day, and why was the transponder deliberately switched off? Why no wreckage found?

Conspiracy theory time -

We know that the Americans have almost perfected the use of drones.
If they can remotely fly a small "aircraft" then why not a larger one?
Was something being tested - and it went wrong? (Is that why 20 members of a firm who do secret work for the US military were on board?)

The "silence" from Diego Garcia is interesting ... no explanation for the cancellation of ALL flights in / out between March 7th and 9th (plane disappeared on the 8th).

Imagine ... just imagine, if the US government had fitted some kind of device that allowed it to "take over" an aircraft and fly it remotely.

They already scoop everyone's e mails and monitor all other activity.
Not so far fetched?

Imagine if such devices had been fitted prior to 9/11 - the planes could have been "diverted" and a great loss of life avoided.

After 9/11 would that not be your No 1 priority if you had the power?


ITK theory is most plausible also they could millions in compensation, the phones still ringing when the plane was missing has been ignored.


This could be a theory as to why the ringing phones have been ignored - they don't always go straight to answerphone mode.
wonderfulengineering.com/the-mystery-beh...ght-mh370-uncovered/

The truth is no-one knows and the Malaysian Govt (as a major shareholder) would be worried about the long term repercussions of a drawn out investigation in the same vein as the ongoing Air France and Airbus criminal probe into flight 447. Their airline has only just got itself onto an even keel and I expect this has not helped their share price or forward bookings - especially from the superstitious Chinese customers. The Malaysians have been releasing tidbits of info to try and stop the share price tanking, but it has been done in such a misleading and clumsy way that it has had the opposite effect of calming the situation. It will only get worse when (and if) it is discovered that one of their pilots had turned into suicidal maniac.
 
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#113592
In The Know

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
Foz wrote:
The Malaysians have been releasing tidbits of info to try and stop the share price tanking, but it has been done in such a misleading and clumsy way that it has had the opposite effect of calming the situation.

Yet its been statement one day / retracted the following day - the ONLY reason the search is going on in the South Indian Ocean appears to be some floating debris - BUT every single coast in the world (that faces incoming currents) has debris every single day !

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A wide variety of items and materials, sometimes unusual and even potentially dangerous, wash up along the Cornish Coastline every year, from unexploded ordinance to dead whales to coconut oil!
www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living...articles-on-beaches/

It will only get worse when (and if) it is discovered that one of their pilots had turned into suicidal maniac.

Again ... pure speculation !

So far there isn't a shred of evidence to support this (and they have been looking)

If it was suicide why not simply ditch the plane as soon as he was over water?
Why the change of direction, and the attempts to fly low and skip radar?
(........ and why was he practising landing at Diego Garcia LOL !)
 
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#113598
Mr Reason

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
Hi ITK........any chance you can argue why China might not actually be heavily involved? To me, they being as Superpower as it gets, have more reasons to be involved than the USA in this case
 
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#113613
Foz

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
Foz wrote:
The Malaysians have been releasing tidbits of info to try and stop the share price tanking, but it has been done in such a misleading and clumsy way that it has had the opposite effect of calming the situation.

Yet its been statement one day / retracted the following day - the ONLY reason the search is going on in the South Indian Ocean appears to be some floating debris - BUT every single coast in the world (that faces incoming currents) has debris every single day !

==

A wide variety of items and materials, sometimes unusual and even potentially dangerous, wash up along the Cornish Coastline every year, from unexploded ordinance to dead whales to coconut oil!
www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living...articles-on-beaches/

It will only get worse when (and if) it is discovered that one of their pilots had turned into suicidal maniac.

Again ... pure speculation !

So far there isn't a shred of evidence to support this (and they have been looking)

If it was suicide why not simply ditch the plane as soon as he was over water?
Why the change of direction, and the attempts to fly low and skip radar?
(........ and why was he practising landing at Diego Garcia LOL !)


Absolutely - the pilot may not have had anything to do with it and in all reality may have fought to save the aircraft during an in-flight catastrophe. Mechanical disaster, terrorism or pilot error, it doesn't look good for Malaysian airlines and the Government as they create more questions than answers.
 
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#113623
In The Know

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
Mr Reason wrote:
Hi ITK........any chance you can argue why China might not actually be heavily involved? To me, they being as Superpower as it gets, have more reasons to be involved than the USA in this case

I think the key reason that I swing the other way, Mr Reason, is Diego Garcia !

The Yanks have spent the last decade (post 9/11) trying to sort out who can, and who can't, enter the USA - now all they have to do is stop the planes.

They have a good history of drones - and quite a history of kidnapping people (for Guantanamo) - often via Diego Garcia !

....... and what a way to really show the upstart Chinese who rules the air ?

Another (alternative) conspiracy theory (floating around the net) says that a secret "cargo" (unspecified - but intended for the Chinese) was loaded onto a flight in Mahe (Seychelles) for Kaula Lumpur where it was due to go onto Beijing via MH370.

Maybe thats why the Chinese are so keen to find it and are operating extensively outside their normal "zone" ???
 
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#113625
In The Know (but not this time)

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
MH370 could have been kidnapped to get to the technical brain-trust on board - 20 Freescale Semiconductor employees travelling to China.

Freescale attracted attention because it is a Texas-based technology firm that develops components for hi-tech weapons systems and aircraft navigation among other things.

Interestingly, that leading innovative company has been oddly unwilling to provide information on the missing people. Only the nationalities of the employees were made public: 12 of them were from Malaysia and eight from China. However, Freescale has persistently declined to release their identities. "Out of respect for the families' privacy during this difficult time, we will not be releasing the names of the employees who were on board the flight at this time," Freescale spokeswoman Jacey Zuniga said.

Nevertheless, Mitch Haws, Freescale's vice president, described them as "people with a lot of experience and technical background," adding that "they were very important." According to Reuters, the vanished employees were engineers or specialists involved in projects to streamline and cut costs at key manufacturing facilities in China and Malaysia.

"it is conceivable that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane is "cloaked," hiding with hi-tech electronic warfare weaponry that exists and is used. The website points out that that is the type of technology that Freescale Semiconductor develops.

Read more: voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_31/MH370-...-media-reports-8550/
 
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#113626
In The Know

Re:Malaysian plane... 11 Years, 3 Months ago  
Very, very interesting ......

www.bollyn.com/are-the-israelis-planning...ing-the-missing-777/

So, why DO the Israelis have an identical jet (to MH370) parked-up in Tel Aviv ?????
 
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