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#116094
In The Know

Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
A very respectable result.

Those who say UKIP did well and couldn't overturn such a 'safe' seat FAIL to. Notice that they did win in the. euro election in the same seat - but when it matters people return to a known (and winning) quantity.

UKIP were nothing more than a protest blip - and will sink without trace next May
 
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#116097
andrew

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
I still get a feeling they will win the seats in Thanet.
 
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#116102
hedda

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
A very respectable result.

Those who say UKIP did well and couldn't overturn such a 'safe' seat FAIL to. Notice that they did win in the. euro election in the same seat - but when it matters people return to a known (and winning) quantity.

UKIP were nothing more than a protest blip - and will sink without trace next May
good grief...ITK agrees with hedda
 
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#116103
Mr Reason

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
As it stands now, June 2014, I can see the following happening in 1 years time

.....and this depends upon Cameron, Milliband and Clegg being in their jobs in a years time

- Straight fight Con / Lab
- Lib get trouned
- North / South / Scotland split
- UKIP make maybe 5 seats in the strong Euro Elec areas

To change this prediction, it would need Milliband and Clegg to go before September, the Scotland Independence vote would need to be a YES

Then maybe fresh Lab blood might steal a few votes and seats, fresh Lib blood might break from the 2010 election and try to have a fresh start and agenda away from coalition, and the Scottish independence YES result might actually shock a few Scots to ask for a re-count or another go at getting a NO vote
 
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#116105
Pattaya

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
A very respectable result.

Those who say UKIP did well and couldn't overturn such a 'safe' seat FAIL to. Notice that they did win in the. euro election in the same seat - but when it matters people return to a known (and winning) quantity.

UKIP were nothing more than a protest blip - and will sink without trace next May


And the Looney Libs?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2650233...Newark-election.html

'Ukip finished a solid second, with Labour well behind in third place'

'Disaster for Lib Dems as they trailed in sixth, barely scraping 1,000 votes'
 
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#116108
Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
A very respectable result.

Those who say UKIP did well and couldn't overturn such a 'safe' seat FAIL to. Notice that they did win in the. euro election in the same seat - but when it matters people return to a known (and winning) quantity.

UKIP were nothing more than a protest blip - and will sink without trace next May


The Newark Euro constituency is rather different to the parliamentary one, indeed a lot of 'new' Newark goes into Kenneth Clarke true blue territory in Rushcliffe.

Labour got in there during the days where parts of 'red' Retford were included in the area.
 
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#116111
In The Know

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
steveimp wrote:
where parts of 'red' Retford were included in the area.

red Retford ?
I thought that was prime agricultural country (and therefor Tory) ?
 
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#116115
Pattaya

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
steveimp wrote:
In The Know wrote:
A very respectable result.

Those who say UKIP did well and couldn't overturn such a 'safe' seat FAIL to. Notice that they did win in the. euro election in the same seat - but when it matters people return to a known (and winning) quantity.

UKIP were nothing more than a protest blip - and will sink without trace next May


The Newark Euro constituency is rather different to the parliamentary one, indeed a lot of 'new' Newark goes into Kenneth Clarke true blue territory in Rushcliffe.

Labour got in there during the days where parts of 'red' Retford were included in the area.


Well spotted Steve,ITK does have a habit of being 'creative; with official facts...but we still love him none the less

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

It has been Labour twice from 1950 to 1979,and again in the landslide of 1997.

UKIP are the only party to have a real size increase in vote from 2010.

Their vote was up over 500% from 1,954 to 10,028.
By a strange contrast the Liberal meltdown went almost the opposite way.
10,028 in 2010 to 1,004 in 2014.

The Tories are the real winners,their vote has held steady,Labour are run by an oh so clever geek,who has never lived in the real world,hence why with all the things that could go for them,he's not aware of what the public want.A simple guarantee of a EU referendum would see him as PM for sure.
UKIP will ride the public popularity stakes best,but under our electoral system will get few gains next year in the commons.Expect them to win in Europe,and in the council elections.

The real losers are the Libs! UKIP support will unlikely go to them,wipeout beckons.
 
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#116120
Pattaya

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
A very respectable result.

Those who say UKIP did well and couldn't overturn such a 'safe' seat FAIL to. Notice that they did win in the. euro election in the same seat - but when it matters people return to a known (and winning) quantity.

UKIP were nothing more than a protest blip - and will sink without trace next May


Have we found the new coalition partners for the Tories?

'In a council by-election earlier this year in Newark, the Lib Dems received fewer votes than a candidate representing the Bus Pass Elvis Party.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27728784
 
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#116142
In The Know

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Pattaya wrote:
'In a council by-election earlier this year in Newark, the Lib Dems received fewer votes than a candidate representing the Bus Pass Elvis Party.'

I've said before that only the nutters turn out for the local elections !

When Bus Pass Elvis gets a national seat, do let me know !

In the meantime, the Ukip councillors can get on with organising street sweeping !
 
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#116146
Pattaya

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
'In a council by-election earlier this year in Newark, the Lib Dems received fewer votes than a candidate representing the Bus Pass Elvis Party.'

I've said before that only the nutters turn out for the local elections !

When Bus Pass Elvis gets a national seat, do let me know !

In the meantime, the Ukip councillors can get on with organising street sweeping !


The Liberals had made themselves a name for winning by-elections in the past ...and are very unlikely to win seats in a general election!.....get yer bus pass ready Elvis
 
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#116152
In The Know

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Pattaya wrote:
The Liberals had made themselves a name for winning by-elections in the past ...

Very difficult to fight against their Coalition partners ... over next 12 months we will see a separation of the two parties as they position for fighting the election on entirely different manifestos.

(Someone had better explain to Silliband what a manifesto is !)
 
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#116158
Pattaya

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
The Liberals had made themselves a name for winning by-elections in the past ...

Very difficult to fight against their Coalition partners ... over next 12 months we will see a separation of the two parties as they position for fighting the election on entirely different manifestos.

(Someone had better explain to Silliband what a manifesto is !)


Both parties are unlucky facing UKIP,but very lucky the main 'traditional' opposition is run by a man with more qualifications than sense

Milliband is up there with lousy party leaders that should easily have won elections,but their own political stupidity let their parties down.Names that spring to mind are IDS,Hague,Foot,Kinnock....and possibly Major.
 
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#116161
andrew

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
The Liberals had made themselves a name for winning by-elections in the past ...

Very difficult to fight against their Coalition partners ... over next 12 months we will see a separation of the two parties as they position for fighting the election on entirely different manifestos.

(Someone had better explain to Silliband what a manifesto is !)


Labour have got one ITK, it's called turning Britain to Zimbabwe.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651737...ty-wealth-taxes.html
 
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#116166
In The Know (as always)

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Pattaya wrote:
Both parties are unlucky facing UKIP,


... while they are "hot" and generate publicity ?

How "hot" will they be in a years' time (now they have joined the National Front) ?
 
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#116168
In The Know (as always)

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Ooopps ... forgot the link !

UKIP may be forced into a U-turn and join with Marine Le Pen’s National Front party if it hopes to have any power in Europe, it emerged last night.

The warning comes as it was revealed that the Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom had spoken to Le Pen and assured her that in the UK "hardly anyone knows what anti-Semitic means".

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/480999/EXCLUSI...-gain-European-power

I told you they were all weird !
 
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#116174
Pattaya

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
In The Know (as always) wrote:
Ooopps ... forgot the link !

UKIP may be forced into a U-turn and join with Marine Le Pen’s National Front party if it hopes to have any power in Europe, it emerged last night.

The warning comes as it was revealed that the Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom had spoken to Le Pen and assured her that in the UK "hardly anyone knows what anti-Semitic means".

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/480999/EXCLUSI...-gain-European-power

I told you they were all weird !


The French NF are nothing like the British version. They are also the top party in France,perhaps because they actually listen to what people want? Not like Cameron who reacts to events,not shapes them....at least he does listen,wipeout for the Libs,and Labour chugging along on auto-pilot.
 
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#116196
andrew

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Pattaya wrote:
In The Know (as always) wrote:
Ooopps ... forgot the link !

UKIP may be forced into a U-turn and join with Marine Le Pen’s National Front party if it hopes to have any power in Europe, it emerged last night.

The warning comes as it was revealed that the Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom had spoken to Le Pen and assured her that in the UK "hardly anyone knows what anti-Semitic means".

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/480999/EXCLUSI...-gain-European-power

I told you they were all weird !


The French NF are nothing like the British version. They are also the top party in France,perhaps because they actually listen to what people want? Not like Cameron who reacts to events,not shapes them....at least he does listen,wipeout for the Libs,and Labour chugging along on auto-pilot.


Tories have fucked up time and time again ITK is so denial about it, ITK you should really listen to Pattaya he speaks sense.
 
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#116205
In The Know (as always)

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Pattaya wrote:
The French NF are nothing like the British version.


... should that comment be followed by the word ....fortunately ?

Mainstream politicians regard the FN as a classic party of the nationalist extreme, exploiting economic distress to whip up hatred of the outsider, the immigrant.

And in the UK, Nigel Farage of UKIP says he will never go into alliance with Marine Le Pen because of her party's "nasty, anti-Semitic past".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-eu-27625501

... but Nigel's representatives have started negotiating with them, just to be on the safe side LOL !
 
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#116206
In The Know (as always)

Re:Tories win in Newark 11 Years, 1 Month ago  
Pattaya wrote:
The French NF are nothing like the British version.

and ...
just in case you still haven't got the message -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27761534
 
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