The Conservatives have edged ahead of Labour for the first time since March 2012. The Tories have 35%, with Labour on 34%

Meanwhile, YouGov's figures in recent days have been far better for the Conservatives than for Labour. Ed Miliband received big conference boosts to his ratings last year and the year before, but barely any this year. The flatness of Labour's conference in Manchester is matched by its underwhelming poll ratings.

The Tories, in contrast, can smile after a conference that started so badly, with news of a ministerial resignation and a second MP defecting.

yougov.co.uk/news/2014/10/02/conservativ...ur-voting-intention/

Labour (or any opposition) OUGHT to be miles ahead - I said it three years ago (check !) .... Labour don't have a hope in hell with Silliband.

Ukip to win at Clacton (local candidate plus protest vote). Probably reversed at GE when people see they win nowhere else - and cannot achieve anything !

Middleton - Labour to drop 10,000 votes but still win (it IS loony land !) Ukip probably 2nd (merely a protest vote - you can vote for anyone in a safe seat as it is never gonna happen, is it !). Back to zilch by the GE.

Rochester - new Tory candidate will retain seat - probably reduced majority (reversed, with larger majority at the GE. Reckless to the recycle bin.

ukpollingreport.co.uk

Polls are funny things ITK,you need to look deeper.

Pattaya wrote:
Polls are funny things ITK,you need to look deeper.

Exactly !

Which is why (without proportional representation) Ukip can never achieve anything !

In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
Polls are funny things ITK,you need to look deeper.

Exactly !

Which is why (without proportional representation) Ukip can never achieve anything !

And with PR their importance may far outweigh the votes they receive....

....They can of course achieve far more than you think ITK...by taking votes away from other parties it can rock 'first past the post' far more than it could under PR...and with The Looney Libs entering 'wipeout' we may well see UKIP consolidating seats in certain areas,just like the Libs do now.

Pattaya wrote:
In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
Polls are funny things ITK,you need to look deeper.

Exactly !

Which is why (without proportional representation) Ukip can never achieve anything !

And with PR their importance may far outweigh the votes they receive....

....They can of course achieve far more than you think ITK...by taking votes away from other parties it can rock 'first past the post' far more than it could under PR...and with The Looney Libs entering 'wipeout' we may well see UKIP consolidating seats in certain areas,just like the Libs do now.

Libs are in demise same with Labour.

If Tories had to form a coalition with UKIP they be begging Farage.

Pattaya wrote:
And with PR their importance may far outweigh the votes they receive....

Ah, you are talking about Rent-A-Gob again !

He does manage to get regular media coverage (but always seems to run when the public are involved !).

It's all smoke and mirrors (and pints) !

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And with PR their importance may far outweigh the votes they receive....

Ah, you are talking about Rent-A-Gob again !

He does manage to get regular media coverage (but always seems to run when the public are involved !).

It's all smoke and mirrors (and pints) !

No ITK I'm talking about PR as a voting system,where small parties in a coalition dictate policy to keep the coalition going...bit like the looney libs in our coalition.

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And with PR their importance may far outweigh the votes they receive....

Ah, you are talking about Rent-A-Gob again !

He does manage to get regular media coverage (but always seems to run when the public are involved !).

It's all smoke and mirrors (and pints) !

When will the Tories deliver their promises ITK ?

Pattaya wrote:
No ITK I'm talking about PR as a voting system,where small parties in a coalition dictate policy to keep the coalition going...

No other way .... if the public have not made an outright choice then the party that wants government needs support, and there will be a price to pay.

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
No ITK I'm talking about PR as a voting system,where small parties in a coalition dictate policy to keep the coalition going...

No other way .... if the public have not made an outright choice then the party that wants government needs support, and there will be a price to pay.

True ITK.

Is the weather up north as bad as it is here?
Was in křbenhavn yesterday for my birthday....must have brought the weather back with me!

Pattaya wrote:
Is the weather up north as bad as it is here?

Been out with the dogs this morning - cold start but looks like a nice day. Yesterday saw heavy rain in the morning (not as much as expected though). Week ahead looks rather wet - but when you get a month of dry weather (Sept) you will get a month of wet weather to balance it up !

ED SILIBAND was accused of taking Labour “back to the 1970s” last night as a new poll confirmed the Tories had jumped into the lead in the race to win the next election.

MPs and peers rounded on the Labour leader as today’s YouGov poll for The Sunday Times put the Tories on 36%, two points ahead of Labour, with Ukip on 13% and the Lib Dems on 7%.

Lord Noon, one of the party’s biggest donors, led a chorus of criticism, branding Miliband’s plans for a mansion tax a “hopeless and desperate idea”. He said: “The mansion tax is going back to the 1970s.”

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1467496.ece

PS - Is "One Nation Labour" a state where everyone wears the same "uniform" / works at the same factory / lives on the same Council estate, and belongs to the same Union (a la East Germany) ?

Pattaya wrote:

Polls are funny things ITK,you need to look deeper.

Interesting (but not unexpected) stats in the new poll -

Amongst ABC1 (decent people who work and pay tax!) - Tories 41 to Labour's 32 (with Ukip ONLY scoring 8 !)

Amongst C2DE (rubbish / scroungers / uneducated etc) the result (not surprisingly) is reversed ! - with Labour on 37, Tories on 32 and Ukip on a whopping 22, and the BNP who don't score otherwise, registering 1 !)

What does this tell us?
Rubbish should NOT be allowed to vote !

Ooops - forgot the stats -

cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/...n-results-021014.pdf

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
Is the weather up north as bad as it is here?

Been out with the dogs this morning - cold start but looks like a nice day. Yesterday saw heavy rain in the morning (not as much as expected though). Week ahead looks rather wet - but when you get a month of dry weather (Sept) you will get a month of wet weather to balance it up !

Funny enough been gorgeous here all day.Just been to 'Decks' carvery in Tescos for lunch...dirty floors do little to set the ambiance for a £6 meal lol
Still Looney Euroland tomorrow...oh and a beer festival in Andalucia for the weekend...been a busy month so far....enjoy ye day ITK

In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:

Polls are funny things ITK,you need to look deeper.

Interesting (but not unexpected) stats in the new poll -

Amongst ABC1 (decent people who work and pay tax!) - Tories 41 to Labour's 32 (with Ukip ONLY scoring 8 !)

Amongst C2DE (rubbish / scroungers / uneducated etc) the result (not surprisingly) is reversed ! - with Labour on 37, Tories on 32 and Ukip on a whopping 22, and the BNP who don't score otherwise, registering 1 !)

What does this tell us?
Rubbish should NOT be allowed to vote !

Silly boy

If they are not considered educated enough to get a job ... why should they be considered educated enough to make complex choices such as who will govern the country ?

In The Know wrote:
If they are not considered educated enough to get a job ... why should they be considered educated enough to make complex choices such as who will govern the country ?

Many in The Liberal party have jobs,and are well educated..but they would have taken us to economic suicide by joining the Euro...I know plenty of Dolers who have more economic sense than them!

Pattaya wrote:
Many in The Liberal party have jobs,and are well educated..

Did you see Newsnight?

The Libs will be in government (with the Tories) AGAIN after the election (and if not, arise Lord Clegg).