The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are no spring chickens. I can sadly assure you that, in my 90s, I won't be keen to stand in the cold and perform ceremonial duties.

JK2006 wrote:
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are no spring chickens. I can sadly assure you that, in my 90s, I won't be keen to stand in the cold and perform ceremonial duties.

Of course you would! Look at how you have refused to be beaten by the horrific trial etc! When most people would have died under a rock somewhere you have fought like hell for the good of other people.
A windy cenotaph is nothing

I wish they would put the duke in something warmer though.

I think they're wonderful

went to the NSW Art Gallery last week for small get-together for the Earl of Wessex- William has exactly the same head

JK2006 wrote:
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are no spring chickens. I can sadly assure you that, in my 90s, I won't be keen to stand in the cold and perform ceremonial duties.

Not even for 10 mins ?

Then a carriage ride to open Parliament ?

Apart from that - what else do they do ???????

And what does Ross do - in Codnor?

SP17 wrote:
And what does Ross do - in Codnor?





What are you talking about?

SP17 wrote:
And what does Ross do - in Codnor?




He'll have to sleep on it

I have mixed feelings about remembering mass murder - by both sides. It's something as human beings we should all be ashamed of. But there are reasons - persecutions of minorities in WW2 for example. Where does one draw the line? When negotiations don't stop it, should one part of humanity stop another part killing people - by killing people? It's not easy.

JK2006 wrote:
I have mixed feelings about remembering mass murder - by both sides. It's something as human beings we should all be ashamed of. But there are reasons - persecutions of minorities in WW2 for example. Where does one draw the line? When negotiations don't stop it, should one part of humanity stop another part killing people - by killing people? It's not easy.

As with yourself Mr King I had family involved in both wars...I prefer to remember the sacrifices they and others made,the bravery of the average person in the street is what I take time to respect,not the idiots safely behind a desk who plan it all.

JK2006 wrote:
I have mixed feelings about remembering mass murder - by both sides. It's something as human beings we should all be ashamed of. But there are reasons - persecutions of minorities in WW2 for example. Where does one draw the line? When negotiations don't stop it, should one part of humanity stop another part killing people - by killing people? It's not easy.

indeed when there is sheer madness involved.

They celebrate the landing at Gallipolli in Oz which is frankly bizarre- tens of thousands of young men slaughtered on a beach invading Turkey which has never before or since done the slightest thing to Oz.

Incompetent British generals are treated like heroes !!

hedda wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I have mixed feelings about remembering mass murder - by both sides. It's something as human beings we should all be ashamed of. But there are reasons - persecutions of minorities in WW2 for example. Where does one draw the line? When negotiations don't stop it, should one part of humanity stop another part killing people - by killing people? It's not easy.

indeed when there is sheer madness involved.

They celebrate the landing at Gallipolli in Oz which is frankly bizarre- tens of thousands of young men slaughtered on a beach invading Turkey which has never before or since done the slightest thing to Oz.

Incompetent British generals are treated like heroes !!

We do not celebrate,we commemorate the sacrifices the poor unfortunates made at the behest of upper class idiots who went to public school...and had no idea what suffering they would cause.

JK2006 wrote:
I have mixed feelings about remembering mass murder - by both sides.

It's not supposed to be remembering mass murder. It's supposed to be remembering mass deaths. You can do the latter without condoning the former.

Fair enough but I still feel uncomfortable about celebrating deaths. We could have days for celebrating deaths on the road every year. Or Ebola. Or 'Flu. Or Cancer. Or murder victims. I'm not sure I want to celebrate any of them.

JK2006 wrote:
Fair enough but I still feel uncomfortable about celebrating deaths. We could have days for celebrating deaths on the road every year. Or Ebola. Or 'Flu. Or Cancer. Or murder victims. I'm not sure I want to celebrate any of them.

Who said celebrate? It's about remembrance. The first things any totalitarian regime do is to outlaw the memory and the imagination by editing history and censoring art. Remembrance is important, and if remembering the dead makes young people today reflect on the reality of war rather than the romantic myth, then that's a good thing. (It would also help if our young, under-educated royals actually went into useful civilian professions instead of racing to get the medals on and joining the macho lads playing soldiers.)