according to the CBI -

First, the UK's membership of a reformed European Union is overwhelmingly in our national interest.
Eight out of 10 CBI members, large and small, would vote to stay in the EU in a referendum.

Second, 63% of CBI members say that immigration has been beneficial to their businesses; only 1% say it has been negative. The economic evidence shows that immigration is of net benefit.

Finally, falling real wages � a price worth paying to preserve jobs during and after the recession.



Read more: www.businessinsider.com/confederation-of...014-11#ixzz3IgjYlSh9

In The Know (as always) wrote:
according to the CBI -

First, the UK's membership of a reformed European Union is overwhelmingly in our national interest.
Eight out of 10 CBI members, large and small, would vote to stay in the EU in a referendum.

Second, 63% of CBI members say that immigration has been beneficial to their businesses; only 1% say it has been negative. The economic evidence shows that immigration is of net benefit.

Finally, falling real wages — a price worth paying to preserve jobs during and after the recession.



Read more: www.businessinsider.com/confederation-of...014-11#ixzz3IgjYlSh9

99% of rich Romans said slavery was beneficial for their business....

Finally, falling real wages — a price worth paying to preserve their excessive profits and keep the plebs in the poverty they deserve...

Pattaya wrote:

99% of rich Romans said slavery was beneficial for their business....

... and it was !

Finally, falling real wages — a price worth paying to preserve their excessive profits and keep the plebs in the poverty they deserve...

Those who work can afford things ..............

ITV Poll tonight ..... 50% say Silliband would make bad PM
only 16% say a good one .....

In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:

99% of rich Romans said slavery was beneficial for their business....

... and it was !

Finally, falling real wages — a price worth paying to preserve their excessive profits and keep the plebs in the poverty they deserve...

Those who work can afford things ..............


Plenty who work still cant afford things, and some who don't work can afford plenty of things.

gee.. businessmen want lower wages..who wudda thunk it?

time immemorial has shown..falling wages mean people don't buy things and start saving hence the economy slows down

hedda wrote:
gee.. businessmen want lower wages..who wudda thunk it?

time immemorial has shown..falling wages mean people don't buy things and start saving hence the economy slows down

Don't confuse ITK please,we all know mathematics is not his strong point....and his economics are 200 years behind Adam Smith.

hedda wrote:

time immemorial has shown..falling wages mean people don't buy things and start saving hence the economy slows down

Typical loony Labour thinking !

Ignore the debt ... don't open the debt collector's envelopes .... it will all go away !

Keep calm ... and spend, spend, spend !

Ignore the fact that hundreds of thousands cannot afford their mortgages (even at 0 interest !) and that many face eviction ! spend, spend, spend !

If we get a bit short, there's always E-Z-Dosh (at only 798% APR !)

spend, spend, spend !

In The Know (as always) wrote:


spend, spend, spend !


Yes, Cameron and Clegg are good at that.

The National Debt is now £1.5 trillion.

Twice what it was when these chaps came in.

Only four years ago.

An unprecedented rise....

In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:

99% of rich Romans said slavery was beneficial for their business....

... and it was !

Finally, falling real wages — a price worth paying to preserve their excessive profits and keep the plebs in the poverty they deserve...

Those who work can afford things ..............

slavery was one of several factors that led to the downfall of Rome.
Increased slavery took the jobs of the lower orders and middle class and they couldn't buy things..made them ripe for revolt.

hedda wrote:

slavery was one of several factors that led to the downfall of Rome.

... so you've said - MANY times !

They were simply over-stretched ... nothing to do with economics at all.

not my conclusions- learned professors of histoty you pleb

In The Know (as always) wrote:
hedda wrote:

slavery was one of several factors that led to the downfall of Rome.

... so you've said - MANY times !

They were simply over-stretched ... nothing to do with economics at all.

Now a history expert...as well as an economist....who needs Gibbons? We have....

In The Know (as always) wrote:
hedda wrote:
slavery was one of several factors that led to the downfall of Rome.
... nothing to do with economics at all.


Hedda is correct - this link may prove educational:-


www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell


Reason 2 covers slaves and the well known economic problems - and it is noteworthy that the Romans had many of the same problems that we still have today.

For instance:-

- government corruption

- breaching of borders

- loss of traditional values

hedda wrote:
histoty

not English, then ?

In The Know (as always) wrote:
... nothing to do with economics at all

Is a typo as bad as a totally erroneous comment - which clearly illustrates your complete and utter inability to comprehend why the Roman Empire fell?

For Miliband and his increasingly jittery party, things have gone from bad to worse, with 63% of those surveyed now rating him as performing badly; just 21% see him as doing well. At a time when he has been facing calls to go, this gives him a new record low net score of -42, which is three points worse than the previous record low of -39 that he scored in June.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/10...riticism-ed-miliband

Labour also dropped three points this month (same poll) - which now puts them only 1% ahead.
That will easily be wiped-out at the election.

In The Know (as always) wrote:
For Miliband and his increasingly jittery party, things have gone from bad to worse, with 63% of those surveyed now rating him as performing badly; just 21% see him as doing well. At a time when he has been facing calls to go, this gives him a new record low net score of –42, which is three points worse than the previous record low of -39 that he scored in June.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/10...riticism-ed-miliband

Labour also dropped three points this month (same poll) - which now puts them only 1% ahead.
That will easily be wiped-out at the election.

Remember UKIP want immigration but they want to control it, something Tories promised and failed to do.

In The Know (as always) wrote:
For Miliband and his increasingly jittery party, things have gone from bad to worse, with 63% of those surveyed now rating him as performing badly; just 21% see him as doing well. At a time when he has been facing calls to go, this gives him a new record low net score of –42, which is three points worse than the previous record low of -39 that he scored in June.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/10...riticism-ed-miliband

Labour also dropped three points this month (same poll) - which now puts them only 1% ahead.
That will easily be wiped-out at the election.

Careful what ye wish for ITK...a new leader,a few extra votes....then a narrow majority government....including Harriet Harmful,Jack Knife Jackie,Mrs Bollocks etc!!!

To my cost, I have learned never to bet against the bookies - as they are rarely too far out. The odds - for the most seats - in the next General Election are:-


Labour - 8/11

Conservatives - evens

UKIP - 40/1


So, a marginal win for Labour is on the cards.