it was alright in the 70s

Nostalgic but hypocritical programme with modern celebrities displaying faux shock looking at programmes in the 70's where there was sexism, racism, and adult men attracted to "older" adult school girls.

People were just more honest on those days. Most people would still be attracted to post-pubescent young adults, they just don't talk about it any more. The rise of Ukip shows that lots of people still have issues with too many foreigners in the country.

One scene showed Terry Wogan hosting a beauty contest in the 70s'. He asked one of the contestants, how old are you. She said 16, and he replied you're a big girl for 16. A fair enough question, since she was about the same height as Sir Terry. However the no mark celebrities were doing their best open mouthed expressions at this perfectly reasonable remark.

robbiex wrote:
it was alright in the 70s

Nostalgic but hypocritical programme with modern celebrities displaying faux shock looking at programmes in the 70's where there was sexism, racism, and adult men attracted to "older" adult school girls.

People were just more honest on those days. Most people would still be attracted to post-pubescent young adults, they just don't talk about it any more. The rise of Ukip shows that lots of people still have issues with too many foreigners in the country.

One scene showed Terry Wogan hosting a beauty contest in the 70s'. He asked one of the contestants, how old are you. She said 16, and he replied you're a big girl for 16. A fair enough question, since she was about the same height as Sir Terry. However the no mark celebrities were doing their best open mouthed expressions at this perfectly reasonable remark.

16 year old in a beauty contest, what a fucking no no that be.

No pun intended.

It makes me really angry when C4 and BBC Four make these snide little programmes, suggesting everything about TV in the 1970s was naff, naive and safe. It's a smug, sneering attitude that helps pass off the crap that dominates today as some kind of golden age by comparison. You'd think that broadcasters with genuine respect for their predecessors would want to honour the achievements of a past era - and technically as well as artistically there were some magnificent programmes made - but, no, they just want to depict one of the most ideologically divided eras in modern history as a uniform culture of conservative cardigan wearers and the TV of the time as simplistic tosh. Like in the music industry, these idiots lack passion and respect for their own traditions.

Wendy Craig from Butterflies exclaiming "I want to be raped" is something you would certainly never see on TV today, apart from a program out to portray how bad things were in the 70s.

Andy wrote:
Wendy Craig from Butterflies exclaiming "I want to be raped" is something you would certainly never see on TV today, apart from a program out to portray how bad things were in the 70s.

What summed "It Was Alright In The 70's" up perfectly was the complete failure to mention that Butterflies was written by Carla Lane - not just a woman, but a woman of principle.
I also noticed that in between the contrived gasps and hand-wringing we had contemporary ad breaks featuring semi-naked women moaning orgasmically (for Mitsubishi cars) and other piffle being sold by sexual imagery.
I look forward to a programme where modern-day comedians pore through what the tabloid press were publishing in the 1970's instead of cherry-picking random bits of out-of-context TV programmes.

Pru wrote:
It makes me really angry when C4 and BBC Four make these snide little programmes, suggesting everything about TV in the 1970s was naff, naive and safe. It's a smug, sneering attitude ...
Perhaps it's related to the attitudes behind those contest-type reality shows, Weakest Link, Big Brother, etc. They all seem to be about humiliation and sneering at others.

Chris Retro wrote:
Andy wrote:
Wendy Craig from Butterflies exclaiming "I want to be raped" is something you would certainly never see on TV today, apart from a program out to portray how bad things were in the 70s.

What summed "It Was Alright In The 70's" up perfectly was the complete failure to mention that Butterflies was written by Carla Lane - not just a woman, but a woman of principle.
I also noticed that in between the contrived gasps and hand-wringing we had contemporary ad breaks featuring semi-naked women moaning orgasmically (for Mitsubishi cars) and other piffle being sold by sexual imagery.
I look forward to a programme where modern-day comedians pore through what the tabloid press were publishing in the 1970's instead of cherry-picking random bits of out-of-context TV programmes.



They also failed to mention that in the seventies "rape" was used to describe "dallying with gusto"

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Chris Retro wrote:
Andy wrote:
Wendy Craig from Butterflies exclaiming "I want to be raped" is something you would certainly never see on TV today, apart from a program out to portray how bad things were in the 70s.

What summed "It Was Alright In The 70's" up perfectly was the complete failure to mention that Butterflies was written by Carla Lane - not just a woman, but a woman of principle.
I also noticed that in between the contrived gasps and hand-wringing we had contemporary ad breaks featuring semi-naked women moaning orgasmically (for Mitsubishi cars) and other piffle being sold by sexual imagery.
I look forward to a programme where modern-day comedians pore through what the tabloid press were publishing in the 1970's instead of cherry-picking random bits of out-of-context TV programmes.



They also failed to mention that in the seventies "rape" was used to describe "dallying with gusto"


I never heard that, what do you mean? In my 70's days it meant force had been used to penetrate. Non-penetrative force would have been "sexual assault".

I only met one woman who claimed to be raped. She didn't report it, but instead walked across the same park each night hoping for a re-run (Turnham Green, IIRC). She was atypical, had the reputation of being a nympho nutter, so she might have made the whole thing up as a fantasy.

OTOH, I knew several who were flashed, and saw at least one direct assault with my own eyes (blatant nipple tweak. The perp got a slap). It never seemed to affect any of the women though, were they made of tougher stuff back then?

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"I never heard that, what do you mean? In my 70's days it meant force had been used to penetrate. Non-penetrative force would have been "sexual assault".

I only met one woman who claimed to be raped. She didn't report it, but instead walked across the same park each night hoping for a re-run (Turnham Green, IIRC). She was atypical, had the reputation of being a nympho nutter, so she might have made the whole thing up as a fantasy.

OTOH, I knew several who were flashed, and saw at least one direct assault with my own eyes (blatant nipple tweak. The perp got a slap). It never seemed to affect any of the women though, were they made of tougher stuff back then?"
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I am sure if she had really been raped she would never have gone near the park again. I think sexual assaults and exposure have always been deeply upsetting, but we hadn't been told it would ruin our lives so we just got on with it and tried to forget mostly, I think.

If a couple were being a bit too full on in public we would say "They were raping each other all over Gullivers Nightclub"
It seems very insensitive nowadays.