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The Trial of Tony Blair - New Music Video
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Mark Rogers

The Trial of Tony Blair - New Music Video 10 Years, 7 Months ago  
Hi there

I have just discovered a music video entitled: The Trial of Tony Blair. youtu.be/D0lO6JnOjCc

It has lots of information and links and explores certain aspects of Blair’s past (such as the fact that he was a promiscuous crossdresser who liked to be known as Miranda at university), hopefully it will encourage people to research Cliff Richard’s past as well. There is much more to know about both of them.

Please help to spread this information around I would be most grateful.

Best regards

Mark
 
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John Marsh

Re:The Trial of Tony Blair - New Music Video 10 Years, 7 Months ago  
Personally I believe everyone deserves a fair trial and hearing.
On a private level in my own thoughts and discussing something like Plebgate or anything similar my immediate reaction is guilty by reason of been a politican. But only at that level in the same way if my teenage son says to me "Dad you gotta to believe me!" They are guilty by reason of been a teenager.(Thank god or something they have all grown up now). That said here on a discussion platform I would very much in all these things that keep coming for the people presenting them to me to provide evidence. Elm Guest House is not automatically Nightmare on Elm Street it is just a place to stay. If staying there makes one a paedophile then on the same logic maybe visiting London makes one a paedophile. Absolutely stupid logic.
The kicker is on Jimmy Savile I keep hearing those media people say "As we now know..." And my head I think ok how do we now know please tell me. My research including reading Dan Davies book on JS shows me he was a real stand up guy. That's the evidence I personally find.
Finally to Tony Blair and the war yes that war.
First Tony Blair did not initiate 9/11 nor 7/7. They happened.
One thing I do know for a absolute fact is I was not prime minister at the time and did not have to make the decision. It is what has been called been handed "a poison chalice."
Yes, I hope we have some extremely clever people in the future from where I do not know. Perhaps on today's logic if we all believe in aliens then one may turn up and be prime minister and then know how to avoid a war at the same time deal with maniac terrorists. Do I sopport Tony Blair? Well, on this site ITK tells us to support the conservatives. Is he right? No idea, perhaps they are really aliens and the answer.
 
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hedda

Re:The Trial of Tony Blair - New Music Video 10 Years, 7 Months ago  
not so sure Blair was handed a 'poisoned chalice' on Iraq & Afghanistan.

the WMD claim was false and deliberate.

I'm also puzzled by those who make the (as now seen with Isis)phony claim that Iraq is now better off and a 'democracy'/

It's like saying I will kill a whole lot of innocent people because Saddam did the same but my killings are for an (un) noble cause.

Blair looks to me like a very troubled man. I have always claimed he was crazy and now I'm sure of it, albeit wrapped up in a personable persona.

But the Miranda bit- I have to see
 
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hedda

Re:The Trial of Tony Blair - New Music Video 10 Years, 7 Months ago  
nothing on that video about Miranda.

just more of the same claptrap about the usual conspiracies. I do hope JK is not going to become an outlet for all the nutters who quote Icke etc.

quickest way to kill an audience and silence a little sane corner of the net.
 
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John Marsh

Re:The Trial of Tony Blair - New Music Video 10 Years, 7 Months ago  
Now that I have started reading history and understanding the mentality of politicians I can see that over the centuries people in general and politicians in particular are narrow in thinking. With that in mind I still maintain "A poisoned chalice." I am not taking arguments on WMD because I have seen very few people "ever" give balanced for and against and detailed reasoning for decisions whether attack Iraq, build a new motorway, or open a new branch or close a branch as in a business decision. WMD was only ever a peg, a something to give the blind people another direction on" their war on terror." Was it "good decision making" absolutely not. But that is how the world is at the moment.

My position is that for proper justice, social concern, helping all the countries sending immigrants create great countries so the UK citizens are going there rather trying to stem the tide of people arriving, needs a new order of leadership, a new paradigm in thinking. New political parties and committees and so on. Something like a Steve Jobs dropped in each area giving that new above the expected norm in direction.

I see judgment on TB working within current parameters and wanting something new as separate issues. Perhaps if understood a movement in proportions to New Testament perspective in religion (Not the ceremonial church thingy that developed) as opposed to the then practiced Judaism.
Or another example but not so good was the 1917 communism revolution in Russia, but with the individual valued above the state and property ownership still accepted and not the ridiculous notions and lack of direction in the implementation that did take place. But the outcome was the country' thinking and direction was altered. That degree of change in thinking and action is what is needed. TB was only working within the current level of thinking.
 
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