That not the migrants dead in the ferry blaze.
Stop this madness. In 2015 open all borders.
There is only one country. The human race.

You think that we should open all borders - and get rid of democracy, because it doesn't work.

Easy to say - but a clear recipe for financial meltdown, chaos and anarchy.

Possibly culminating with Armageddon. But then, never has such a radical approach ever been taken in the history of mankind.

And is ever likely to be...

JK2006 wrote:
That not the migrants dead in the ferry blaze.
Stop this madness. In 2015 open all borders.
There is only one country. The human race.

Yes stop the madness for good....punish those who break the law by trying to by-pass those sensible controls 99% of the population approve of...it'll soon send the message to those illegal economic migrants,the boats will stop coming..people will stop dying,mafia type gangs will stop profiting...rents for working people will stop going up as fast,illegal labour will stop undermining the poor earning a fair crust...etc...but of course you and ITK may have to pay a few pence more for your morning coffee..

Pattaya wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
That not the migrants dead in the ferry blaze.
Stop this madness. In 2015 open all borders.
There is only one country. The human race.

Yes stop the madness for good....punish those who break the law by trying to by-pass those sensible controls 99% of the population approve of...it'll soon send the message to those illegal economic migrants,the boats will stop coming..people will stop dying,mafia type gangs will stop profiting...rents for working people will stop going up as fast,illegal labour will stop undermining the poor earning a fair crust...etc...but of course you and ITK may have to pay a few pence more for your morning coffee..

Shame we can't vote for you Pattaya.

Rubber Brand and his cronies will be kicking off over this he moans about the government but does not vote. If people want asylum then go through the proper channels which people have do in OZ.

Remember landlords will exploit the immigrants and businesses also with cheap labour.

The present systems simply do not work. We need to tear up old fashioned concepts of government and rethink according to the new reality. Yes - the revolution will come with massive problems but none worse than those already here. Closing down countries and ignoring reality will make things worse, not better.

JK2006 wrote:
The present systems simply do not work. We need to tear up old fashioned concepts of government and rethink according to the new reality. Yes - the revolution will come with massive problems but none worse than those already here. Closing down countries and ignoring reality will make things worse, not better.

People are too selfish for communism to work and businesses will not pay employees the same mount of wages.

JK2006 wrote:
The present systems simply do not work. We need to tear up old fashioned concepts of government and rethink according to the new reality. Yes - the revolution will come with massive problems but none worse than those already here. Closing down countries and ignoring reality will make things worse, not better.

The current system was introduced by silly do gooders...who had never done a real day's work in their lives....nuff said.

Agree on both counts Andrew but listing what WON'T work doesn't change the fact that we need to formulate a method that WILL work.

JK2006 wrote:
Agree on both counts Andrew but listing what WON'T work doesn't change the fact that we need to formulate a method that WILL work.

I do agree but there is method that will work as me and you said democracy does not work.

You're sounding like Russell Brand JK. Got the Revolution book for Christmas. Interesting read.

You see - all that money we spent killing Libyans and Iraqis. I would have liked to have seen those millions spent on improving the benefits and National Health Service to cater to immigrants. Likewise, the millions wasted on our borders checking people in and out - cut back down to a crack team just to keep out or arrest criminals.

Anyone else notice that virtually ALL those on these boats are from Syria ?

I wonder why ?

(could it be that we promised to help them then backed down ?????)

In The Know (as always) wrote:
Anyone else notice that virtually ALL those on these boats are from Syria ?

I wonder why ?

(could it be that we promised to help them then backed down ?????)

We need to look ourselves first. (Charity begins at home)

The biased/socialist/useless Beeb chimes in,but forgets to mention any criminal element,the very element that turns off most law abiding people.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30660777

At no time does the BBC mention these are economic migrants,and that they have broken the first rule of being refugees...eg claiming asylum in the first safe country they reach.



'But if you look at the top of the picture you see something deeply disturbing.

About a dozen other people are scaling a 6m-high (20ft) wire fence.

They are African migrants trying to get into the Spanish enclave of Melilla in Morocco.

The contrast between their desperate lives and the luxury golf course is painful.

Even looking at the picture makes me feel guilty.'

Just a minute...African migrants...in Morocco...who's persecuting them in Morocco? How many other countries have they passed that were safe?...This whole sorry saga could and should have been dealt with.Tow any boats back to where they came from,so long as it's a safe country...immediately return any of these economic scroungers back to their last port of call...the boats will soon stop coming...it's European laws that stop us doing this....say no more

we in the West (and Down Under) enjoy our lifestyle because we raped and stole the assets of the Third World and Africa. We owe them.

## last time I went to my Spiritualist Church group it was quite depressing to hear the most vocal woman moaning about Somalian refugees in Oz was a Jewish lady who lost her mother in the Holocaust.

Yet the Somalis have settled in Oz country towns (luxury for them) and have become valued citizens and highly popular amongst the country folk.

Not forgetting the beggars and muggers at port of Calais, I never forget those who blag about what benefits they can get in the UK.

If the borders were opened only the people with enough money to travel would go, and the people left would be far worse off than before.
We would all be going to the same few places.

It would all settle down sooner than later, just as it did in America a couple of centuries ago.

JK2006 wrote:
It would all settle down sooner than later, just as it did in America a couple of centuries ago.

Obviously the fact you can jump on a plane and get there in a day...as opposed to '6 months in a leaky boat' has had absolutely no bearing on the fact that we now need to control immigration to protect vital services and the way of life we worked hard to make for ourselves?

andrew wrote:

We need to look ourselves first. (Charity begins at home)

Ahhh ... the scroungers' mantra !

Sod everyone - look after yourself (JUST like all those selfish people hanging onto to spare bedrooms when there are FIVE MILLION on waiting lists).