20,000 sign overnight petition against signing with Oldham - just shows the strength of the public opposition.

What happens to him now?
Maybe he will have to look outside football for employment.

In The Know (as always) wrote:
20,000 sign overnight petition against signing with Oldham - just shows the strength of the public opposition.

What happens to him now?
Maybe he will have to look outside football for employment.

He could claim benefits one day but no one will hire him, he can't play abroad or be a coach.

I still believe he is innocent remember Marlon King found a club after his prison sentence.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11...urn-to-football.html

Ched deserves a second chance playing for Oldham is not high profile football. Mike Tyson is getting movies deals, TV appearances he was still booked for fights after he raped.

Yes rape is heinous it happened to a few people I know but he has never admitted it and done his time.

Excellent comment from a DM reader.
If he believes he is innocent why should he apologies. If he apologies he signs off his guilt. There are so many serious questions that need to be reviewed urgently on this case.

Football fans - in more than one club - have made it known, very clearly, that a convicted rapist is unemployable in the game.

In the world's biggest sport - the 'paid his dues' argument does not stand up. Whether this is right or wrong is irrelevant.

And, where is UK-celebrated rapist/non-rapist MIKE TYSON in this shallow mainstream, so called 'debate'? About a rightful CCRC/appellant who's case under UK law is still 'sub judice', and supposedly NOT for media mob-rule rumour and gossip.

Evans, who might be usefully employed in background coaching (a gels' team?), like so many more hasn't got a hope in hell of justice with today's doubt and fear dealing bent-media.

Paraphrase UK-victim JK,"The alleged victim, willing enough to accompany wealthy footballers to a hotel bedroom, might have said 'Yes' when meaning 'No', or might have said 'No' when meaning 'Yes'?"

I love the way the Green Ink brigade (those who shout loudest) tend to be assumed to be "the majority". People who basically feel Ched Evans should be allowed to continue his life, whether or not he made a mistake, tend not to shout about it or sign petitions. After all, it's not such a GOOD STORY.

the strength of public opinion ?..20,000 out of approx 66 Million?..that's 66,000,000 to make the point.

ITK was never good at maths.

always count your change when you shop at his Corner Store

andrew wrote:
There are so many serious questions that need to be reviewed urgently on this case.

No, there are NOT !

He's been found guilty - end of ! - until someone changes that situation there are NO questions to answer.

JK2006 wrote:
I love the way the Green Ink brigade (those who shout loudest) tend to be assumed to be "the majority". People who basically feel Ched Evans should be allowed to continue his life, whether or not he made a mistake, tend not to shout about it or sign petitions.

says who ?

Those 20,000 were motivated to (a) find, then (b) sign the petition - in a very short space of time.

Nothing to stop someone starting a counter petition (I wonder how many would sign that ?)

hedda wrote:
the strength of public opinion ?..20,000 out of approx 66 Million?..that's 66,000,000 to make the point.

You are doing the WRONG sum, hedda (as usual !)

Its not the 66 million you should balance against, its whatever is Oldham's normal "gate" (and I strongly suspect it is nowhere near 66 million !)

andrew wrote:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11...urn-to-football.html

Ched deserves a second chance playing for Oldham is not high profile football. Mike Tyson is getting movies deals, TV appearances he was still booked for fights after he raped.

Yes rape is heinous it happened to a few people I know but he has never admitted it and done his time.

Excellent comment from a DM reader.
If he believes he is innocent why should he apologies. If he apologies he signs off his guilt. There are so many serious questions that need to be reviewed urgently on this case.


Its jolly well high profile for people who live in Oldham!

Oh yes ITK; LOTS of questions to be answered. Can we trust the British judicial system to get it right? Is Ched the victim of false allegations and a broken system or a rapist? And does ANY convicted criminal deserve to have their lives ruined as well as suffering loss of freedom? Did the JUdge mean "you are sentenced to prison AND having your chosen future career taken away from you"? If he did, is that fair? If he didn't, should the green ink brigade have the power to increase his sentence? Lots and lots of questions.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:

Its jolly well high profile for people who live in Oldham!

Can you believe this, honey! ?

One of Oldham's main sponsors is Mecca Bingo.

They are threatening to cancel the deal if Evans is signed.

Bingo "tends" to be played by women .... women who will probably NOT be best pleased if a rapist is signed by a club they are (indirectly, through Mecca Bingo) sponsoring.

JK2006 wrote:
Oh yes ITK; LOTS of questions to be answered. Can we trust the British judicial system to get it right?

We all know, JK, that you have your own little adgenda but on the whole the Judiciary system is probably as good as it gets.

I have not seen a shred of evidence (save for the convicted's own claims - and they all claim innocence don't they!!!!) that there has been ANY miscarriage.

As for whether he will find future employment as a footballer .... that depends on those who pay the bills, and it appears that most people don't want to be associated with a rapist, and most brands (who actually pay the bills) don't want their product to be forever associated with a rapist either !!!!

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
andrew wrote:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11...urn-to-football.html

Ched deserves a second chance playing for Oldham is not high profile football. Mike Tyson is getting movies deals, TV appearances he was still booked for fights after he raped.

Yes rape is heinous it happened to a few people I know but he has never admitted it and done his time.

Excellent comment from a DM reader.
If he believes he is innocent why should he apologies. If he apologies he signs off his guilt. There are so many serious questions that need to be reviewed urgently on this case.


Its jolly well high profile for people who live in Oldham!

It's all go in Oldham I doubt they never had a media circus.

I do have my own agenda ITK but I can promise you, from personal experience as well as personal first hand observation, that the British judicial system is totally smashed, broken and flawed.

Looks like Oldham could pull out. Ched will not get a regular job due to his profile maybe he could behind the scenes on some team in League 1 online shop. No non-league will touch him either due to fear of their finances. When has a modern footballer ever became a role model and League 1 or 2 players are not high profile and only earn a average of £747 per game ?

Anyone care when Luke McCormick got to play straight away same with Marlon King

I don't know if he is guilty or not. I assume that he is, however he has served his time and deserves a second chance. Letting the lynch mob at him, isn't going to make him a better person.

JK2006 wrote:
I do have my own agenda ITK but I can promise you, from personal experience as well as personal first hand observation, that the British judicial system is totally smashed, broken and flawed.

I agree that the system is not perfect, but a bit like democracy, we cannot actually come up with anything better !

Something that will get to the truth, will punish criminals (and will also act as a deterant)

If the present system is "loaded" it is largely in favour of the accused, with more wrong-doers "getting off" than innocent people being wrongly convicted (which is how it should be). Having said that, there will always be a small number of wrongful convictions unfortunately.

BUT we should not accept that someone has been "wrongly convicted" just because HE says he has (I'm sure the Kray twins also had their complaints) !

ITK (as always) wrote, "I agree that the system is not perfect, but a bit like democracy, we cannot actually come up with anything better !"

Should check KOH posts rightly recommending the FAR BETTER justice in mainland MODERN-EU's 'Inquisatorial' system of three learned-judges. NOT minority tabloid-ruled juries supposedly of 'our peers'.

Maybe minority tabloid-ITK's peers but NOT learned-JK's peers, and a 40-million majority NON-tabloid UK readers!