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False accusers - WILL you be believed? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Police and CPS keep saying "You will be believed" which I would have thought at best naive and at worst encouraging crime. But I (perhaps foolishly) consider most police and CPS as honest and decent human beings. I bet they have experienced thousands of false allegations which they simply file away as NO ACTION - ACCUSER MAD (or deluded or greedy or demented or simply mistaken).

I still find it utterly amazing that there haven't been hundreds of old groupies from the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s who haven't made allegations against their much adored (back then) rock stars. Did the police simply disregard them? Is it fair for a Freedom of Information request to demand such information from Chief Constables? Are such fake claims filed away? Have there been none against Cabinet Ministers? Including Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Milliband etc? Or Police Chiefs? Or Judges? Or Editors? This case against the man accused of falsely accusing Ken Clarke for example, cannot be the only one (or is that because he did so publicly, on Twitter)?

Will a high proflle case produce such examples in court as part of a defence illustrating to an ignorant jury just how common false allegations are? Could Chief Constables be called as Defence witnesses to show just how many spurious complaints there are these days? If I'd known 15 years ago what I know today I'd have had my team investigate the treatment by police of the Mick Hucknall/Paul Weller false accusers a few days before mine in 2000, such as why they were made, who investigated them, why they were dropped and so on (read about that in 70 FFFY).

Hopefully 2015 will be the year when the balance of justice is corrected.
 
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#126445
Jo

Re:False accusers - WILL you be believed? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
The man who accused Ken Clarke was interviewed at home by the police, apparently filming them with a hidden camera, as he posted the videos on YouTube. An audio recording of a police interview with him also appeared on YouTube.

He has led an amazing life as a disabled vegetarian, filmmaker mentored by Stanley Kubrik, friend of Madonna and associate of the Knights Templar.

He seems to have acted a part as a young adult in a role that apparently didn't involve presenting himself as an underage boy or meeting Ken Clarke.
Later that morning, IGA’s managing Director, Jeremy Sweeney, and two IGA researchers, Sharon Johnson and Richard Green, caught a taxi round to 55 Park Lane, whereupon they met up with ‘Richard Roberts’ and another Cook Report investigator, posing as ‘Ben.’ In furtherance of the entrapment of Ian Greer, the portly ‘Richard’ and the handsome young ‘Ben’ masqueraded as openly gay partners....A few days later ‘Ben’ called at IGA’s offices and told Greer that IGA had indeed been favoured with Ecocon’s contract to undertake research on the Insolvency Service. The openly gay and handsome Ben then invited Greer round to the apartment at 55 Park Lane for drinks together, alone, ‘as Richard would be out looking at houses.’ Greer declined the personal invitation, but thanked ‘Ben’ warmly for the contract.
www.guardianlies.com/section 2/gls2p07a.rtf
 
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hedda

Re:False accusers - WILL you be believed? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
you make a good point that perhaps criminal lawyers should note : calling coppers to give evidence on how many false accusations they receive.
 
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Re:False accusers - WILL you be believed? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
I suspect that will happen very soon Hedda. The argument regarding the stunning, extraordinary, vast quantity of false allegations and the people making them, ranging from total fantasists and lunatics to completely sane, sensible normal people with faulty though genuine memories, has not yet been used by defence lawyers but I reckon it's only days away (and may even have happened in legal arguments before now).
 
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Re:False accusers - WILL you be believed? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Such people as William Roache, Jimmy Tarbuck, Jim Davidson, Michael Le Vell, Freddie Starr, Matthew Kelly, John Leslie, Andrew Lancel and others would, I suspect, be happy to appear in a witness box describing their recent experiences. I think jurors would find their jaws dropping as one after the other related the tales of false allegations. And a read of the (very expensive - to us tax payers) NHS reports on Jimmy Savile's alleged crimes would be essential evidence about the way people genuinely believe things happened.
 
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