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#126465
Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
This seems to be a very sensible Judicial decision.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-30813335
 
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#126478
Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
And it's reported on BBC local London news! On the media! Only because, of course, it's an example of the loony left but still, it's there instead of (default position) being ignored.
 
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#126479
Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Ah; the child abuse charities say that 16 year olds are not capable of "grooming" (Britain's silliest new word) and that older people can never be "groomed" by younger ones. Well, that may be true. I haven't looked at any facts or researched the matter. But it seems an odd assumption to me. Just like the similar one that no accusers ever lie or exaggerate about sex abuse. This may indeed be a trait of British men and women - that they simply do not do so. They lie about not killing someone or not selling drugs or not burgling houses or mugging people. They lie about committing fraud or ripping people off. But they never lie about sex - "they will be believed". I happily admit to being out of step with the majority. I'm probably mad.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2909756...ays-groomed-HER.html
 
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Last Edit: 2015/01/14 18:08 By JK2006.
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#126485
MWTWATCHER

Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Plenty of teachers and others in prison and on Sex Offender Reg who in a moment of weakness end up in the same situation, off to prison you must go, looks like this Judge can see the whole story, more than likely a police officer going for promotion, they need to know its not always a soft target.

Am awaiting an MWT tweet but of course he may need to be blind to this case.
 
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#126489
Andy

Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Inevitably there have been complaints, so now the sentence may be reviewed

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30824569
 
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#126495
In The Know

Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
I happily admit to being out of step with the majority.

Attorney-General to review the sentence.

I don't think you are wrong in your overview, and she made all the running - BUT he should have resisted
 
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#126497
Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Ah yes - the Green Ink brigade kicks in and gets a sensible Judge's conclusions changed (probably). Not that they sat through the details of the case, of course. A five word headline is all their poor little brains need to come to the simple conclusion. Information? Depth? Complexity? Enough already. Superficial society 2015 only needs the basic tabloid slogan, thank you.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2909756...ays-groomed-HER.html
 
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Last Edit: 2015/01/15 08:46 By JK2006.
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#126507
Jo

Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
MWTWATCHER wrote:
Am awaiting an MWT tweet but of course he may need to be blind to this case.
twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/555462445238853632
 
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#126522
In The Know (as always)

Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
He's infor a disappointment, then - the AG's office have said there is "no scope" for a review of the sentence.
 
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#126524
Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
Correct ITK - www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/15/...r-pupil-sex-sentence

I love this comment...

“This is the wrong use of the word grooming, it’s the wrong message to teachers, parents and pupils, and it’s wrong to suggest that a vulnerable child is in any way responsible for their own abuse,” said Barnardo’s executive director of children’s services, Sam Monaghan.

It is about time the absurd word GROOMING got investigated. But this woman clearly DID groom the teacher, the judge makes it quite clear that the teacher SHOULD have resisted and punished him for not doing so, but anybody except a moron can see she was NOT "vulnerable" and not, at 16, a "child" - another word that needs examination.

The Children and Young Person's Act of 1933, never repealed, describes a child as "a person under 14". Someone between 14 and 18 is "a young person".

A 16 year old can consent to have sex. The teacher/pupil relationship affects that (rightly in my opinion) but it doesn't turn a consenting adult into a child.

Incidentally, whilst I am allowed to have consensual sex with a 16 year old, the Sex Offenders legislation bans me from WORKING with anyone under 18.

Alice in Wonderland?
 
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#126556
In The Know

Re:Are we beginning to see Justice wake up? 10 Years, 6 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:

Incidentally, whilst I am allowed to have consensual sex with a 16 year old, the Sex Offenders legislation bans me from WORKING with anyone under 18.

Alice in Wonderland?


There are also other "quirks"

You cannot gamble under 18 (but you can buy lottery tickets at 16 !)

You cannot marry without parental consent till you are 18, but you can join the army at 17 (and knock bastards out at ANY age !)
 
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