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Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two
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#127714
Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Interesting.
 
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#127716
MCR

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
They've released the video of Talbot being questioned by the police.
Watch it here
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fred-talbo...ty-former-tv-5156919
 
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#127717
MWTWATCHER

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
lets wait and see what the inrepid PeeeeeDohFinder has to make of it.

Yes JK it will be interesting to see who jumped on the train without a ticket.
 
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#127719
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
And a shower of new accusations flying in from Scotland. Now there's a surprise.
 
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#127722
Jo

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Do the police normally publish this kind of thing?
twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/566210659399270400
 
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#127726
robbiex

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
fred talbot interview

A damning police interview. Why would you say no comment to innocuous questions.
 
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#127730
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Lawyers tell clients ALWAYS to say No Comment, even if the question is "would you like a drink?".
Police twist words.
I think this trial highlights several things - how the media ONLY likes the negative story (he was found NOT GUILTY of 8 of the 10 charges). How juries decide on whether they believe the witness instead of whether the witness believes his or her own evidence (which may still not be true). Unless they truly believe nobody lies or convinces themselves they are speaking the truth ("have you been abducted by aliens?"), there MUST be reasonable doubt without further evidence. You cannot be certain someone is correct in their recollections.
 
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#127736
andrew

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
The only thing I know what the guy is guilty off is wearing obscene clothes.
 
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#127738
robbiex

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
He more or less documented his own crimes in his diary. He said no comment to the question of whether it was his writing in the diary and then said "My writing is terrible", giving the game away.
 
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#127739
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
The bits I saw were the (now) thought crimes rather than actual crimes but what do I know, or understand about the law today.
 
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#127753
hedda

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
the claims from the so-called 'rock'n'roller' carried no weight but sort of show that show business now is infected by loonies.
Sad.

I reckon down the track many show biz personalities will be accused. It's part of this bizarre new puritanism and show biz folk will be regarded as not normal.

social workers, teachers, old Tories..all fair game
 
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#127756
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
So I wonder whether the Judge will take into account that 80% of the accusers were lying - or "mistaken" - when sentencing him on the 20% guilty?
 
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#127760
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Do we think Talbot was innocent? No, none of us heard the evidence. The jury did - for 80% of the claims. My worry, having experienced first hand British "justice", is that Judges tend NOT to explain to jurors that just because they believe an accuser believes his or her story, it does NOT follow that they are accurate and, without other, outside evidence, that should mean "reasonable doubt". Likewise, someone saying "that looks like my writing" is NOT the same as someone saying "I did it". Reasonable doubt.

Likewise celebrity witnesses. Stars with brains avoid the courts (and even media comment) like the plague, unless forced into it (and misquoted).They are well aware that high profile discussion of sex abuse is liable to make groupies come out of the woodwork and make allegations about rock and pop people from 30 years ago. Lots of money in it.
 
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#127762
MWTWATCHER

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Mark Willy-Twat posted on twitter that another celebrity found guilty, Talbot was a teacher at the time so not a celeb, he was a weather man after so another MWT stupid quote.

20% Guilty and 80% not, sentencing easy, stick a pin in sentencing guidelines on this one.
 
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#127767
Den

Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
There is a huge difference between being gay and being a perverted pig with unhealthy interests in schoolboys.

Please ....stop confusing the two on here. You people are doing it every damn day. And it only makes you look like paedo apologists.
 
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#127769
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
I can't see anybody here doing any such thing. It's all in your head.
 
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Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Den wrote:
There is a huge difference between being gay and being a perverted pig with unhealthy interests in schoolboys.

Please ....stop confusing the two on here. You people are doing it every damn day. And it only makes you look like paedo apologists.


I don't know what being gay has to do with it at all? When was that mentioned?
 
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#127776
Re:Fred Talbot NOT guilty of most; GUILTY of two 10 Years, 5 Months ago  
Den wrote:
There is a huge difference between being gay and being a perverted pig with unhealthy interests in schoolboys.

Please ....stop confusing the two on here. You people are doing it every damn day. And it only makes you look like paedo apologists.


Eh?

I don't see people on here supporting Harriet Harperson, for instance, the very epitome of what you suggest.
I also have never seen anyone here confusing paedophilla with homosexuality.
 
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