On the Pier actually where it's 25°c.

Scene of Graham Greene's novel of the 30's - later made into a movie on two occasions.

Most notably with Richard Attenborough, and about London gangs who used to visit!

Then a town; now a city...

A dive as well.

Terrible parking, reducing speed limit is a stupid idea and instead of tacking drugs they are encouraging it.

Are the binmen still on strike there?

Green Party ruined which was a nice place.

It's Soho with a beach.

andrew wrote:
It's Soho with a beach

Good description


But it's a lot of things

For example - Queen Victoria's dad had a holiday home there


The Brighton Pavilion

And started the fashionable trend of going to the seaside...

Whilst getting your car scratched.

Spee wrote:
On the Pier actually where it's 25°c.

Scene of Graham Greene's novel of the 30's - later made into a movie on two occasions.

Most notably with Richard Attenborough, and about London gangs who used to visit!

Then a town; now a city...




are you reading this drivel from a cornflakes packet?

Spee wrote:
But it's a lot of things

For example - Queen Victoria's dad had a holiday home there


The Brighton Pavilion

And started the fashionable trend of going to the seaside...




Riveting stuff !

But actually Brighton Pavilion was built by George IV to please my ancestor (his first wife) Maria Fitzherbert.

If you are staying at the YMCA then you are staying in her old Brighton home !

Obviously when your family tree was shaken - a lot of nuts fell out!

MF was NOT his wife; if she had been, the royal family would be very different.

With a few Roman Catholics in it, even.

If you are going to boast about your family - real or imagined - please be accurate, at least.


Only stay at the Grand...

Not only does this poster make up economic and financial data, he now adds bogus historical information to his repertoire.

Any marriage to the already twice married MF would have contravened several Acts.

Parliament would not allow it and G4 - in debt to the tune of £70 million (In today's money) - had little option but to dump his Catholic girlfriend.


Many think that the early demise of MF's previous and apparently healthy husbands had something to do with his thinking!

In The Know wrote:
Spee wrote:
On the Pier actually where it's 25°c.

Scene of Graham Greene's novel of the 30's - later made into a movie on two occasions.

Most notably with Richard Attenborough, and about London gangs who used to visit!

Then a town; now a city...




are you reading this drivel from a cornflakes packet?

I think he went to the Dianne Abbott school of unadvanced economics

Diane Abbott*

With regard to Ms Fitzherbert - who ITK erroneously suggests was the wife of a King of England - it is significant how things have now changed in terms of royal family marriages.

All members of the immediate royal family continue to require the permission of the Monarch to marry (which G4 didn't have).

But for a very few years now - they can marry catholics, although the Monarch cannot be catholic. When G4 and MF were an item, any such marriage would be illegal/void.

Harry's fiance was educated as a catholic although she never practiced as one - and it remains unclear as to whether she was baptised as one.


In addition, the religion of any offspring is still uncertain - and is a minefield of uncertainty and possibilities.

Spee wrote:
Diane Abbott*

With regard to Ms Fitzherbert - who ITK erroneously suggests was the wife of a King of England - it is significant how things have now changed in terms of royal family marriages.

All members of the immediate royal family continue to require the permission of the Monarch to marry (which G4 didn't have).

But for a very few years now - they can marry catholics, although the Monarch cannot be catholic. When G4 and MF were an item, any such marriage would be illegal/void.

Harry's fiance was educated as a catholic although she never practiced as one - and it remains unclear as to whether she was baptised as one.


In addition, the religion of any offspring is still uncertain - and is a minefield of uncertainty and possibilities.




And now we know why so few people reply to his posts.
Oh look,there's some paint drying on the other side of the room....yawn....yawn...

Read and learn Tim!

Spee wrote:
MF was NOT his wife

The marriage was recognised by The Pope ... the ONLY authority which counts.

George IV was also buried (in St George's Chapel) with a locket containing Maria's photo (as requested in his will).

His brother inherited as William IV.
He was proclaimed King on a Monday evening and his first public appearance as King was to travel to Brighton the following Thursday to see Maria FitzHerbert.

He offered to make her a Duchess (she refused).
She accepted a pension for life and the continued use of the Royal livery.

Spee wrote:
Many think that the early demise of MF's previous and apparently healthy husbands had something to do with his thinking!


Oh, how fools insist on making themselves appear even more foolish !

Maria's first marriage only lasted 3 months - her husband fell off his horse and broke his neck.

Her second husband (FitzHerbert) was twice her age and already suffering what was probably tuberculosis when they married. They moved to Nice for the milder weather in the South of France) but he died a year later.

So, Maria was twice widowed before the age of 21 ... and when she moved back to London was one of the wealthiest women in the capital. She had a pension from her first marriage, a further pension from the 2nd, and was given the FitzHerbert town house in Mayfair to live in.

Her closest friend was the Duchess of Devonshire (Chatsworth) ... a daughter of the Spencers of Althorp - and an ancestor of Diana). Her story weas the focus of the film The Duchess.

When I last visited the FitzHerbert ancestral home (at Norbury in Derbyshire) - a magnificient medieval building, the private Church next door was having its Flemish stained glass renovated (by the National Lottery !) for a staggering amount of money. Nice to see that the peasants pounds go to a good cause.

In The Know wrote:
Brighton Pavilion was built by George IV to please my ancestor (his first wife) Maria Fitzherbert

Why tell porkies?

G4 had one one wife - but dozens of mistresses such as MF, who he discarded.

MF is buried in Kemp Town.

In The Know wrote:
The marriage was recognised by The Pope ... the ONLY authority which counts

Treason! G4 was not a catholic, nor did Rome or the pope have anything to do with our country.

A cleric was paid a few hundred quid to carry out a bogus, illegal and void marriage service - to MF, only to placate her catholic scepticism; his name was Bob Burt.

BB did the job only for the money, after many refused - as G4 had no authority to marry a catholic, or anyone without the Monarch's permission.

Under English law - the only Queen to G4 was Brunswick. Why make up history as well as economics?

In The Know wrote:
Brighton Pavilion was built by George IV to please my ancestor (his first wife) Maria Fitzherbert

Maria FitzHerbert was such a star in Brighton that they name a bus after her to this day !

history.buses.co.uk/history/fleethist/805mf.htm

.... and there seem rather a lot of witnesses to testify that there was indeed a secret tunnel from Brighton Pavilion to Maria's house !

www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/page_id__75...8p.aspx#commentsform

The silly little boy must be driving himself stupid trying to "find out" stuff from Wiki !

Look at the change of stance between post 318 and 321 above !

In The Know wrote:
The silly little boy must be driving himself stupid trying to "find out" stuff from Wiki !

Look at the change of stance between post 318 and 321 above !

I doubt he ever had a p!of to loose,cackling on about more and more nonsense with each post.
Off to bed now,midnight turned here.

Insults again

All local buses are called after famous former residents

The tunnel went from the Pavilion to the Dome, the old stables


Few English queens are buried in Kemp Town