Randall wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Jo wrote:
And try finding just one post from ITK not endorsing the view that multiple accusations from adults popping up late in the day with financially-friendly claims equals iron-clad guilt. Funny site to be visiting with that attitude.
Always try and see a balanced argument ... the Jury can ONLY decide on the evidence presented - but never ever (unlike many on here) always asssume that someone MUST be innocent !
There's another aspect to it, apart from guilt or innocence.
That's the idea that Harvey Weinstein did indeed do the casting couch stuff alleged, but the argument is over whether that is illegal or just bad manners, or should be illegal. From the anti-male feminist side, there has been consistent pressure over decades to expand which manifestations of bad manners fall within the prohibitions of the criminal law.
An example from the Harvey Weinstein reports is whether a casting couch fumble was a quid pro quo OR whether his position of financial and career influence over the actresses vitiated their consent to do what they did in return for advancement (which they did indeed receive...)
Randall exhibiting insight here.
Perhaps the
Casting Couch was for some time
but not all time.
Things, society are in constant change. Recall it was powerful Studio moguls who ran Hollywood and some indulged in the Casting Couch- some just were happily married but were completely ruthless and made and broke careers
because they could.
Throw in a whole lot of enablers- agents, managers, producers (remember- one of
Marylin Monroe's greatest loves was he manager who never mistreated her and recognized her as an intelligent but damaged woman and cared for her accordingly).
So do we today punish people for acting in a way that was the norm for 60/50/20/10 years ago?.
If people are convicted of a "historic" crimes they can only face the penalties that were on the books then.
Along with some who will be re-writing a decision to be fiddled with as "rape"- do we say
they are as guilty as f*ck for helping perpetuate a system and culture of abuse?
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do NOT tell me some aspiring actress who agrees to go to the bedroom of a powerful producer does NOT know what the score is..they just aren't that stupid (not in California)
## I believe the Weinstein trial (in about 2 years time) will claim many more scalps..innocent and guilty.
### More and more people are proclaiming that it is better that some INNOCENT are convicted as long as it snares the guilty : we are witnessing the gradual change in one of the greatest tenets of law virtually in every civilised country being gradually over-turned.